I'm supporting him, all we need now is for him to make it official, and to get as many people as possible to encourage him...

What options do we have?? Giuliani and McCain??

Might as well vote Dem, turn in your guns.

Posted by TexasFred at May 21, 2007 07:28 AM

Not sure about Thompson; I'm leaning toward GM. Someone who is not a politician and whose platform is butt simple. Domestic policy = "you are living in the greatest society on earth; shut up and go find a job." Foreign policy = "I have a nuclear warhead for every Middle Eastern capital; shut up and go clean up that goat crap."

Posted by Mustang at May 21, 2007 08:02 AM

Are you guys that closed-minded? You'd rather vote for a washed-up actor than a Democrat? Pathetic. How about you forget labels for a short time and look at the others. Personally, I voted for Dubya both times, but I am leaning toward Bill Richardson in this time around.

Posted by Bishopdic at May 21, 2007 10:17 AM

Dang - I thought Fred was for Tom! Mustang has it right! GM for President!! ;-)

Posted by chrys at May 21, 2007 11:03 AM

Bishopdic - left to bring back the BREAK-DOWN Before you think Bill Richardson - check this man's REPORT CARD - F Unless you enjoy open borders then Richardson IS for you!

Posted by chrys at May 21, 2007 11:30 AM

Yes, we have to keep all those mexicans out of the U.S. I hate these scare tactics. If we tossed all the illegal immigrants out, our country would grind to an immediate halt. It's time we tell Lou Dobbs to shut his pie hole and accept that immigrants can help us more if we make them part of the plan.

Posted by bishopdic at May 21, 2007 11:56 AM

GM - why not Romney?

Personally, I think there is a HUGE 'romance' factor in polls this year; first, it was Condi, then it was Newt, and now it's Fred. You can project whatever dream platform you may favor on them - because they aren't declared candidates! So easy to make believe that they think how YOU do....

When none of them run- Please consider Mitt.

Posted by Peter Porcupine at May 21, 2007 12:17 PM

"If we tossed all the illegal immigrants out, our country would grind to an immediate halt."

That's if you believe all the hype:

"Jobs that Americans won't do"
"They're bolstering our SS program"
etc. ad nauseum.

Oddly enough, There's a guy who takes care of my lawn- he's an American
There's a girl who takes care of my pool - She's an American
There's a guy I call all the time to maintain the brush behind my house and prune trees - he's an American

Aren't they doing the jobs that "Americans won't do"? Many Americans have CREATED this market for cheap labor. It's not because Americans won't do the jobs. It's because they won't do it for slave wages.

Somewhere in the middle, between cheap foreign labor and exhorbitant union labor, is our answer. There's is no one single answer to the problem. Addressing one aspect of the situation brings up three more that need to be addressed to make it work.

Some people think it's fair to just fine them $2000 and make them pay 2 years back taxes. Wait until Uncle Sam nails them for 3 or 5 or 7 years back taxes and then ask them if they think that was fair.

In 1986 they instituted the first amnesty program. Subsequently, politicians who weren't happy with it set to amending it right away. Dates were extended, different groups were specifically named and added with different requirements, deadlines were extended again, etc. Effectively, the old program became nearly open ended and a free for all. The bill was seen by many as another "living document".

Yet still, there were many who did not take advantage of all the opportunities and chances they had to become citizens and finally, when they found themselves between a rock and a hard place, a whole new crop of immigration lawyers were born to find ways to circumvent the laws for their illegal clients.

Lemme give you a couple stark statistics here:
It was estimated then that there were 3 million illegals elligible for a path to citizenship. About 1.3 million actually applied and a full third of those were suspected to have had fraudulent documentation and were put through the system anyway. The INS was overwhelmed with 1.3 million. The other 1.7 million are likely still here and still illegal.

Today a conservative guess is ten to twelve million. And we are to be optimistic? When all the focus is put on how to get them legalized and nothing but bickering about stemming the flow? If less than half actually applied for citizenship under a much more lenient program, how many do you think will apply out of 10 million, 15 million or the largest guess, 20 million?

If you have faith in our government implementing their "new" program and enforcing all the laws written in, then God bless you.

Because I don't.

But this gets away from the subject of the post, Fred Thompson's smack down of Moore.

GO FRED!

Posted by Oyster at May 21, 2007 02:17 PM

You'd rather vote for a washed-up actor than a Democrat?

Yeah, the last time that we did that we elected Ronald Reagan and got rid of Jimmy Carter.

Posted by Woody at May 21, 2007 02:18 PM

Romney makes me nervous - too plastic - too easy on changing his moral standards and the timing of these changes are too political. Too long the spoiled rich kid. Knows nothing but politics and money - born into it. Even his 30 months service as a Mormon missionary was a political trip. Of course he sounds and looks Presidential - BUT - Would we agree with his decisions and choices? I'm old fashioned I guess - some how I'd like the Commander in Chief to have served in the military or the Peace Corps at some point. AND even Gore does better on immigration - although Romney is part way there - I'm only looking at A report cards and strong stands on winning the War on Terror. I'm waiting for Romney's $400 hair cut! I'm guessing he's had several at or near that price range. ;-)

Posted by chrys at May 21, 2007 02:29 PM

Bishopdic is a washed up newspaperman who, with his populism thinks he can chastise those of us not liberal by saying he voted for Bush twice. Sigh!

OK, let's take a look at all of them, Richardson has been accused of being a serial groper who can't keep his hands to himself... maybe he learned that trick from his former boss.

OK, that's enough looking... ;-)

Seriously, I've not made my mind up yet except that it would be impossible for me to vote for Hillary, Ron Paul, Joe Biden or John Edwards. On the Republican side, I'd have a hell of a time voting for McCain (although I'd sooner vote for him than any of the Dem four noted just above).

I haven't made my mind up, and Peter, you are right, because he is not a declared candidate, he hasn't had the spotlight shined on him; if he gets in, that bit of luck will cease and he will have to deal with his warts in view for the first time.

Posted by GM Roper at May 22, 2007 05:34 AM

Righties should thank their lucky stars the 'serial groper's' boss will not be running again. As it is, his wife may just ride his coat tails into office.
Sorry, Geo, but the Republicans have no one running who I'd trust to lead, so I am forced to look elsewhere. Richardson is the only Democrat who seems to have the goods.
Oh, and thanks for dragging my profession into the agrument again. Not sure about you, but I extend much further than my job title, even if a few bad apples have taited the name.

Posted by Bishopdic at May 22, 2007 08:41 AM

Bishopdic, I "dragged" your profession in because you dragged in Thompson's. Simple isn't it? The reality is that there are some good things and bad things about the republicans. I'll give you this, of all the Democrats running, Richardson is the only one I'd even consider voting for and I'm not a big fan of his. It depends on who is running.

As to the republicans, what is it that you are looking for in a "leader" and do you really know enough about any of them to make the statement that you wouldn't trust any of them to be a leader? I haven't made my mind up, although everyone of them running (Reps and Dems) have marks against them of one type or another. On the Democrat side, again, only richardson. On the Rep side, I don't think many of them have enough executive experiences or have shown me yet what they are capable of.

If you don't expect snark back my friend (and I still count you among that select few) then don't lead off with snark! It really is quite simple.

Posted by GM at May 22, 2007 10:55 AM

To Chrys:

I was looking really hard at Tancredo, but he has a sno-ball in hells chance, ZERO...

To Peter Porcupine:

I wouldn't vote for Romney if he was the ONLY Repub in the batch, I'd write in GM as POTUS and expect him to make me the New Sec/Def...

To Bishopdick:

Damn, I mean... Just... Well... Damn... Sorry...

To Woody:

Oh hell yeah, that's what I'm talking about...

Posted by TexasFred at May 22, 2007 09:22 PM