I'm sorry I looked. Maybe you need to make the warning larger. Then, can you explain why liberals, who are so much for women's rights, just go along with the Muslims as if they have a right to evil treatment of women.

Posted by Woody at March 8, 2006 05:13 PM

Why is it that some people are unwilling or afraid (or think it wrong) to stand up for what they believe (know) to be right?

Any culture that would sanction this behavior is wrong and the perpetrators should be punished. Isn't that obvious? Why not?

Posted by too many steves at March 8, 2006 10:35 PM

Thanks for the link. I'm glad to see more folks are talking about this issue in their blogs. Maybe the media will catch up once people are fed up with it being downplayed and dhimmified.

Posted by reverse_vampyr at March 9, 2006 07:24 AM

RV, glad to provide the link.

Posted by GM Roper at March 9, 2006 04:51 PM

George, you link to a "valuable and very serious post", which claims that there is "an epidemic of rapes by Islamic youth in Europe."
I have not found any sources concerning an epidemic in that post.

You are supporting a very serious charge that is likely to cause even more Islamophobia. What evidence of an epidemic do you have?

Besides, is there any indication that the percentage of Muslims in Europe who rape women is higher than the percentage of Christians in Europe who do so?

Posted by Jorg at March 10, 2006 06:36 AM

Jorg, thanks for coming by. However, perhaps the term "epidemic" is ill chosen. The fact remains however that when women are raped, it is a crime of violence as well of sex. In too many Muslims it is a "right" because of their belief system that women are inferior. As one commenter on Dr. Sanity noted: "it's not results that count -- it's **motivation**."

Further, As Sigmund, Carl and Alfred also noted:

"If FGM is tolerated, why would it surprise anyone that other violence agains women is also tolerated?
Further, there is a time honored culture of blaming the victims for their troubles.
Islamic law is quite clear: The killing of a non believer for no reason, is a terrible thing- like killing an animal.
It is not murder.
Rape of a non Muslim is of little consequence."

Islamophobia is created by the actions of the Islamofascists, and no one else; nothing more, nothing less. If you wish to eliminate islamophobia, eliminate the faith based hatred, faith based abuse, faith based hysteria (over cartoons for Pete's sake), faith based belief that theirs is the only true religion and are willing to act on that belief. There are many religions that believe that they are the one true faith, but do you see those religions acting the way that the islamists or Islamofascists do? Think again!

Posted by GM Roper at March 10, 2006 08:06 AM

Dr. Sanity's very first sentence claims that there is "an epidemic of rapes by Islamic youth in Europe." but does not provide any evidence of this epidemic. This statement that causes Islamophobia and spreads prejudices against us Europeans.

The subtitle of your blog is: "This is a place where truth, honesty, and integrity are honored above all else" and yet you highly recommend Dr. Sanity's post.

Sorry, George, I am disappointed.

Posted by Jorg at March 10, 2006 11:02 AM

Jorg,
Fjordman has written extrensively about this. Unfortunately, he is no longer blogging. However, he reported on statistics released a year ago which documented the epidemic. From http://fjordman.blogspot.com/2005/02/muslim-rape-epidemic-in-sweden-and.html
"Muslim Rape Epidemic in Sweden and Norway - Authorities Look the Other Way
Numbers released in January 2005 indicate a sharp rise in the number of rape charges in Malmö, Sweden’s third largest city:

Thomas Anderberg, responsible for statistics at the Malmö Police, says there was a doubling of the number of reported rapes by ambush in 2004, following what was already a decade of steadily increasing numbers of sexual crimes....
....
...national statistics reveal that reported rapes against children have almost doubled in Sweden during the past ten years...
The number of rape charges per capita in Malmö is 5 – 6 times that of Copenhagen, Denmark. Copenhagen is a larger city, but the percentage of immigrants is much lower. And it’s not just the rape statistics that reveal a scary increase in Malmö or Sweden. Virtually every kind of violent crime is on the rise...."
Read the whole thing. The Radical Muslims endorse rape as a tactic and policy to keep women in their place. Several of us Psychbloggers have written about this recently, including myself and Dr. Sanity. It is real and it is a part of their world view.

Posted by ShrinkWrapped at March 10, 2006 01:00 PM

Malmö isn't Europe.
Even Norway and Sweden aren't Europe.
Europe consists of more than 25 countries and more than 300 million people. Norway and Sweden have less than 20 million inhabitants, I believe.

If I would look at the murder rate in Washington DC, Houston, or Chicago, and then write that there is an epidemic of Americans killing each other, you would rightly criticize me as Anti-American.

If someone would look at the crime statistics of Washigton DC rather than Malmö or the crime statistics of Texas rather than Skandinavia, then this person might come to the conclusion that African Americans are more likely to commit crimes than Whites.
Or look at how the disproportionate number of African Americans waiting in death row for their execution due to murder...
If this person would say that the black race is responsible for those crime, he would rightly be considered a racist.

Posted by Jorg at March 10, 2006 02:30 PM

Don't worry, Jorg, Europe will be fine. You have nothing to worry about. Muslims will not hurt you. Muslims are your multicultural friends. It's our fault for noticing.

On a less sarcastic note, one might very well conclude from the crime statistics that an elevated risk of falling victim to a violent crime comes from associating with black people. Not nice to say, and definitely not nice to think about.

The difference between the U.S. and Europe, it seems to me, is that Europe imported a problem it didn't have to have. Immigrants engaging in racist sex crimes is not tolerable to you, or is it? I could understand, at least a little, if I could be convinced that the current problem is the result of misbehavior by like-minded fellow liberals, but I don't think that is what is happening.

Europe is being colonised by a previous generation's coolies. Their co-religionists are busily assembling nuclear weapons, and hurrying to acquire delivery systems which can hit Europe. They despise the idea of progress, and despise weakness. Conveniently for them, an awful lot of Europeans seem to despise themselves.

I hate seeing it happen. I hate seeing the font of Western culture destroyed by what strikes me as an inferior culture. Punish your home-grown criminals by your lights, by all means, but please don't let newcomers who haven't contributed anything to a great culture run roughshod over you. Europe is great, and Islamists had nothing to contribute to that greatness, and never will.

Posted by Mike James at March 10, 2006 08:15 PM

"Europe is being colonised by a previous generation's coolies."

You guys are paranoid and Anti-European. We know how to take care of ourselves. Sure, there are severe problems with some immigrants, but it is much safer in Europe than in the US. Look at the murder rates.

George wrote: "Islamophobia is created by the actions of the Islamofascists, and no one else; nothing more, nothing less."

You are justifying prejudices against all Muslims, because of the actions of a few Muslims.

Do you justify xenophobia in the US because a few foreigners behaved badly? Do you blame Anti-Semitism on a few bad Jews? Do you justify racism because a few African Americans are bad? Do you blame Gangstarap for the high number of murders commited by African Americans? You seem to think it is justified to have severe negative prejudices against a big group of people due to the actions of a few.

You are being unfair to the large number of Muslims who have nothing to do with the fanatics. You promote hate and clash of civilisations by supporting Islamophobia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamophobia

Posted by Jorg at March 11, 2006 02:08 AM

Jorg, granted Dr. Sanity may not have provided supporting documentation. I haven't read her post so I'll concede that. Documentation and supporting evidence is necessary to an argument or debate. And you're also correct in the fact that Sweden, and Norway are not "part of Europe". I even agree with you that one faction of any group does not speak for or represent the other.

But ... this is not really about that and to argue semantics does nothing to address the issue itself. The fact is that in the reporting that is available, Muslim males, in Denmark particularly, are over represented in rape cases and apparently this is true in other countries which don't have a Muslim majority.

All rapes are more an issue of control, anger and subjugation than sex. But there is a current rising phenomenon of those cases involving fundamentalist Muslim males who openly admit that Islamic doctrine is their justification. Addressing it no more contributes to Islamophobia than terror acts committed indiscriminately in which they use the same religion as justification. No, it does not speak for all Muslims and no one here claims so.

Your last statement is what prompted me to respond - "You are being unfair to the large number of Muslims who have nothing to do with the fanatics. You promote hate and clash of civilisations by supporting Islamophobia." By that measure, we shouldn't speak of it? This is an unmentionable issue? Because it promotes Islamophobia? Because in doing so we vilify an entire one fifth of the global population? How so?

Did exposing the many child molestations perpetrated by priests vilify and promote hatred toward the world's Christian population? No. Was anyone concerned this was promoting Christianophobia? No. Why? Because it was a particular phenomenon which was not coupled with Christian terror groups wreaking havoc world-wide and I can't think of one single priest that claimed Christian doctrine justified their actions. So to ignore the pertinent aspects of this issue being what they are is well, wrong and downplays it to be just another rape case or just ordinary news.

Dr. Sanity's post, even with it's shortcomings, is still worthy of discussion and very, very worthy of concern. So far, all you've done is tear apart the manner in which her message was given without adressing the issue itself. The way in which you've presented your argument leaves one to wonder whether you deny that commonly Islam is the basis for the subjugation of women in every aspect of their lives, not just the threat of possibly being raped by a few errant men. The fact is that this subjugation of women is not just occasional abberant behavior. It's wide-spread and a great deal of it goes completely unreported.

The reason information about these rapes is hard to come by on the web is that news agencies reporting on the issue are in languages other than the English we speak here in the US. We rely on many translations by fjordman. There aren't many out there doing that.

Posted by Oyster at March 11, 2006 09:54 AM

If you want a whole load of links pertaining to this issue and a considerable amount of translation here's a good link:

http://www.moriel.org/articles/discernment/islam/muslims_rule_sweden.htm

Posted by Oyster at March 11, 2006 10:30 AM

Jorg,

I am sorry to say it but you are a fool. Do you remember what just happened across Europe when a few "youths" went on a burning marathon? Do you not remember what these fine lovers of humanity did to those who chose to exercise their right to speak? Do you not see the coverage of a young Jewish man tortured? Did it not strike you as absurd that a hate crime was covered up by a nations leaders in full view of its people? Do you not see that Europe has no heart or soul?

While other have been kind in regards to the greatness of euorpe I will not be. The europe they speak of has long since died. The europe they owner was of another age. The europe they speak of believed in truth and human dignity. That europe is gone. We now are left with the weak and timid. The youth of europe are weak in spirit and cannot accept greatness if its price is remotely difficult. The old to are afraid to give up the comforst they have secured.

Life unfortuately for europe will proceed and they will have to pay the price.

Posted by val at March 11, 2006 07:09 PM

Sure you can discuss rapes by Muslims, but you should not exxagerate them. And you should provide credible evidence for whatever statement you made, if you praise your blog as the "place where truth, honesty, and integrity are honored above all else"

Exaggerations cause prejudices. Dr. Insanity's very first sentence claims that there is "an epidemic of rapes by Islamic youth in Europe." but does not provide any evidence of this epidemic. This statement that causes Islamophobia and spreads prejudices against us Europeans.

Besides, is there any indication that the percentage of Muslims in Europe who rape women is higher than the percentage of Christians in Europe who do so?

Moreover, the last time I checked the percentage of rapes was much higher in the US than in Europe.

So why don't you write about the "rape epidemic" on your continent rather than spreading anti-European sentiments?

Posted by Jorg at March 11, 2006 07:26 PM

Jorg,

you can hide behind your "reasonableness" if you like but you are fooling only yourself.

Please respond to the issues raised rather than making general statements. By the way, we are not talking about Rape in the US.

You are a true coward who prefers to hide behind words becasue YOU have not felt the sting of injustice. You allow others to do the painful and dangerous work of proteting liberty while you pplay the judge.

Please respond to the multitude of HATE CRIMES that are ENGULFING europe.

Posted by val at March 12, 2006 08:49 AM

you guys are fooling yourself. You spread misinformation. You don't substantiate your claims about rapes in Europe with facts.

You are paranoid right wing nutcases.

There is no epidemic or rapes in Europe by muslim youth.

Present evidence!

If you value integrity, honesty and truth as this blog claims to do, you have to provide evidence for your claims.

Another unsubstantiated outrageous claim on this blog is:
"Everyday Muslim and European newspapers insult and degrade Jews as animals and rodents, which is not only insulting but, additionally, encourages the hatred of Jews."

Posted by Jorg at March 12, 2006 11:22 AM

Jorg,

Please answer the questions. Smearing those who challenge you is not a very clever tactic.

Anti-sematic crimes are on the upswing in europe. We just had an incident that the government of france would not even appropriately categorize. Muslim violence is sky rocketing in europe. Please check with france, germany, etc on the number of destructive acts commited by Muslims. We in the US saw plenty of burning in France. Maybe you missed the coverage.

Again speak to the issues and facts. Your rightous denials are sad.

Posted by carlos at March 12, 2006 04:38 PM

Carlos,
I am going to answer all your questions, once you or anybody else answer the question I raised in my very first comment, i.e. what is the evidence of "an epidemic of rapes by Islamic youth in Europe."

For those of you unfamiliar with Europe: It's a continent. It has more inhabitants than the US... Malmö isn't the only city in Europe.

If crime increases in Chicago, I am not going to say there is an epidemic of crime in America.

"Muslim violence is sky rocketing in europe."

Where is your evidence? How do you define sky rocketing.

What are you guys afraid of?
Do you really need a new enemy? Do you miss the Sowjets that much?

Posted by Jorg at March 12, 2006 05:09 PM

Jorg,

the rioting for WEEKS in France can easily be called "skyrocketing" by those who can count. The number of cars destroyed represents a HUGE jump. The rioting also took place in Germany and other nations across Europe.

Now the number of people killed by Muslims in Engalnd is skyrocketing as well. We will use the bombing in Londan as an example.

Another example could be the the BOMBING in in Madrid the capital of Spain which is located in europe.

The number of rapes commited by MUslims in Germany is skyrocketing as well as reported by the German police.

You can try to be clever but you just are not that smart.

Posted by Marco at March 12, 2006 05:41 PM

Where is your evidence on skyrokting rapes by muslims in germany, smart arse Marco?

The number of people killed on 7/7 did not have a significant impact on the murder statistics in Britain.
Fifty-six people were killed in the attacks, including the four suspected bombers
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_london_attack

How many Americans get killed in Houston or Washington DC everyday?

The rapes and murder rates are much higher in the US.

Sweep in front of your own door first, you fear-mongering Europhobes.

I am still waiting for you to provide evidence for your claim:

"Everyday Muslim and European newspapers insult and degrade Jews as animals and rodents, which is not only insulting but, additionally, encourages the hatred of Jews."

Posted by Jorg at March 13, 2006 01:25 PM

Jorg,
the link below will not discourage you from holding to erroneous beliefs but it represents a try at injecting facts into the anger filled assult you have leveled against all those who present questions that you don't have the courage to honestly answer.

http://www.boston.com/news/world/europe/articles/2006/03/13/anti_semitism_seen_rising_among_frances_muslims/

Posted by pete at March 13, 2006 09:09 PM

The conservative American Drudge Report recommends this article: "Gang members charged in rape allegedly watched by mother of one"
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/n/a/2006/03/13/state/n162232S19.DTL&type=printable

The names are all Hispanic. Most Hispanics pretend to be Christians. Shall I write about the worst Christian gang rapes or the worst Hispanic gang rapes?

I have never heard of a Muslim Hispanic...

"They were each being held in lieu of $100,000 bail."

My English is not perfect. Does that quote from the article mean that the US law would have allowed them to bail out, if they were rich criminals?

If that is the case, I think you are too soft on rape. Your law makers are not serious about law enforcement. They are appeasing the criminals! Help, the United States are run by weasels who are appeasing criminals, especially rich criminals.

US law enforcement is failing to combat gang rape in the US. There is an epidemic. Help!

I have to tell all Europeans about this! I have to warn them not to travel to the US. It is not safe.

THERE IS AN EPIDEMIC OF RAPES BY CHRISTIAN HISPANICS IN THE UNITED STATES.

Here's a quote: "Seven gang members and three female associates were charged Monday with raping a woman as the mother of one suspect allegedly watched and encouraged the assault, authorities said.
The 23-year-old victim was targeted because her boyfriend had angered members of the Anaheim gang, authorities said.
She was lured into a hotel room by a female gang associate at a Feb. 23 party then sexually assaulted over a seven-hour period, Anaheim police Chief John Welter said."

When are you going to crack down on your gangs of young immigrants?

Why are not you doing anything against the epidemic of rapes in the US?

Okay, enough. Do you understand now what I mean about you spreading Europhobia? This is basically what you have been doing. You don't want me to reprocitate to you? Shall I write an anti-American post and including a horrific picture of a rape victim to increase the emotional appeal?

Pete, I will answer all questions once you have answered the questions I first raised when I commented here:
George, linked to a "valuable and very serious post", which claims that there is "an epidemic of rapes by Islamic youth in Europe."
I have not found any sources concerning an epidemic in that post.

Pete, you recommend an article about anti-Semitism in France, which is just one European country.

Shall I look at crime statistics in Texas and then write "Violent Crime is rampant in the United States"?

Please give me some statistics about rapes in Europe!!! If those statistics support the claim of an epidemic of rapes my Muslim Youth, I will then answer all your questions. Is that a deal?

Posted by Jorg at March 14, 2006 10:50 AM

Jorg, for one thing, the fact that you are unwilling or unable to find links to substantiate any claims made does not mean they do not exist. Your are conveniently ignoring the link I have provided and the reasons I gave for why some information is difficult to obtain. You have categorically denied, without your own substantiation, just about everything everyone has said and succeeded in only vilifying each and every person here using the Islamophobia label as a means to end debate and discredit your opponents. I find that troubling.

Linking to an article about something that happened in California is so far off the mark I can't begin to say. No one here or in the article claimed a rash of Muslim rapes was taking place in California. If you feel you must "reciprocate" by writing an anti-American post, then by all means, join the legions out there doing the same. One more post from you won't help or hinder.

To insist that any blogger balance their posts with self-deprecation is ludicrous. In order to be fully balanced one would have to more than that. There isn't enough time in a day to write a book length post about every epidemic of rapes occurring all over the world. And to imply that the immigration issue here in the US and all its ramifications is not already covered ad nauseum all over the web is disingenuous.

What you fail to see is, and I'll say this one.more.time, the phenomenon that is the basic point in this discussion is the religious motivation and justification stated openly and willingly by the perpetrators. Why is that so hard for you to understand?

Posted by Oyster at March 15, 2006 11:10 AM

Allright Jorg you said that there is no evidence that rape is higher among muslims. Well I just finished reading an artical saying that in Norway although having a small immagrant population 65% of all rapes in Norway or atleast the citys in Norway are committed by immagrants almost all of them muslim. Very often the parents of the perpettrators will say that their children are not to blame and that the women should be punished. A police officer in france said that they recieve about ten rapes a week 80% being muslim.

Posted by Caleb at March 21, 2006 10:11 AM