November 01, 2005

Moveon.org's Inability to Move On

Not only is Move On dot org not able to move on vis-a-vis Scooter Libby, but they have a petition out that would:

Stop Alito -This morning, with his administration growing weaker by the day, President Bush caved to pressure from the radical fringe of the Republican Party and nominated Samuel Alito to replace Sandra Day O'Connor on the Supreme Court.

Alito is a notoriously right-wing judge on the Third Circuit Court of Appeals. He has consistently ruled to strip basic protections from workers, women, minorities and the disabled in favor of unchecked power for corporations and special interests.

Bush's ploy to woo the far-right could reshape the High Court for decades to comeâ€â€Âbut we don't have to let that happen. Today we're joining the campaign to stop him by aiming to collect 350,000 signatures in 48 hours. Can you help us get there?

When I read this, I laughed so hard I almost cried. The folk at MoveOn are petrified, terrified, horrified, abashed, aghast, alarmed, anxious, apprehensive, aroused, blanched, cowed, daunted, discouraged, disheartened, dismayed, distressed, disturbed, faint-hearted, frozen, intimidated, nervous, panic-stricken, perplexed, perturbed, rattled, running scared, scared stiff, shocked, spooked, startled, stunned, suspicious, terror-stricken, trembling, upset, worried and otherwise discombobulated. OMG, this is so much fun.

Look, lets be honest, they don't want Alito for two reasons: 1) Bush appointed him and 2.) Alito won't pander to their worldview of social re-engineering. If Alito is so far to the right, then everyone must agree that Ginsberg is equally far to the left, if not in fact farther. So these pathetic folk gin up a petition to present to the senate to get the MINORITY Dems to do their bidding: e.g. (the dreaded) Phil E. Buster!

Well, you know they first asked for 250,000 signatures, then jacked it up to 300,000 signatures and now to 350,000 signatures. You know, with more than 60 MILLION folk voting for Bush, 350,000 signatures are a drop in the proverbial bucket. And yet, and yet, there are serious indications that these MoveOners either don't know how to gather signatures that count, or they are cheating (anyone want to bet what I think? No? I'm not surprised!).

Eric at MyopicZeal picked up on Nates research at Another Attempt has some excellent stats and research on how MoveOn's figures seem to be well, aggrandized, amplified, augmented, aureate, bloated, distended, enlarged, euphuistic, extended, flatulent, flowery, fustian, grandiloquent, grown, magnified, magniloquent, ostentatious, overblown, overestimated, puffed, pumped up, stretched, surcharged, swollen, tumescent, tumid, turgid, verbose, windy, wordy and down right unfair. Nate notes nothing nefarious for sure, but does note that in minute by minute counts the numbers go up, down, then back up then down again. He also noted that he was able to sign the petition with a fictitious, false, fancified and even fortified name, and it was accepted:

Update: They don't do e-mail validation, meaning you could sign up repeatedly with false information. They also don't return any error when you submit the same information over and over again. Whether or not duplicates get added to the petition, I'm not sure. In any event, this petition is meaningless given they don't verify submitted e-mail addresses, and one person can submit multiple "signatures" using different (real or fake) e-mail addresses.

Update: I've submitted 4 signatures to MoveOn.org's petition, three with valid (personal) e-mail addresses, and one with a fake e-mail address. All successful. The possibilities (and signatures) are infinite at this point. This still doesn't explain the counter discrepancies.

Now, I'm not saying that what MoveOn is doing is illegal, but in my worldview, we call it cheating. Actually, I'm really hoping that the Dems are craven enough to fear MoveOn and their ilk. Then the Dems are likely to push Mr. Phil E. Buster's button and the Neuclear Option comes into play. I hope so, I really do.

Nate, you've done a fabulous job. Keep up the excellent work my good fellow.

Linked at Cao's Blog!, NIF, Oblogatory Anecdotes, Something and Half of Something, Don Surber, and The Political Teen

Posted by GM Roper at November 1, 2005 07:29 PM | TrackBack
Comments

I don't think anyone in a position of power takes these e-mail petitions seriously, just a no one takes seriously those pre-printed bulk-mailed petitions that are transparent fund raising appeals.

Like their paper cousins, I think the real purposes of these e-mail peitions are as 1) a vehicle for fund raising; 2) a source of addresses for future mailings/solicitations and to share or sell to other groups; and 3) self-promotion of the organization (e.g. "look at us, look at how many signatures we got, we're hot stuff, pay attention to us" and so on ad nauseum).

Groups like MoveOn need a steady diet of outrage to live. They ignore the law of diminishing returns: when you're always shouting, people stop listening and move away; if your response is to keep shouting louder, more and more people will move out of earshot, and all you'll have left are those who've gone deaf.

Something for people of all political pursuasions to keep in mind...

Posted by civil truth at November 1, 2005 11:32 PM

"I'm not saying that what MoveOn is doing is illegal, but in my worldview, we call it cheating."

Ahh, but G.M., in the "reality-BASED" (not _real_) world of Mooveon.orgy, Demoncrapic Underpants and the rest of the Loony Left base (which includes the overwhelming majority of Mass Media Podpeople), it's called "making every vote count."

heh

Posted by David at November 2, 2005 02:32 AM

Why doesn't this surprise me? I can't imagine.
MOVEON.org is a front org. for the liberals...I hate them and everything they stand for. I can't even go to their site without feeling ILL.

Posted by Raven at November 2, 2005 03:05 PM





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