July 14, 2005

Moral Relativism And Terrorism

Yesterdays post concerned the Sound Of Silence from the Muslim world regarding the ongoing terrorism; New York, London, Madrid, Russia, Chechnya, Nairobi, Rydiah, Baghdad, Cairo, Lebanon, Jerusalem, Qandahar. If a Christian sect with world wide membership committed the same kinds of atrocities against Catholics or perhaps Muslims, what do you suppose the headlines of the world would say? Exactly and there-in lies the problem. Some folk, blinded by their inability to say ill of the so-called 3rd world, by their inability to face the reality of this struggle, indeed, perhaps even hoping that in some way, the western democracies will receive their comeuppance.

This is the Moral Relativism of today. A relativism where the BBC removes the word terrorist from its site and puts up "bombers" in less than 24 hours after the bombs went off in London. A world where the morally blind wonder "Why do they hate us so." A world where CAIR is more concerned with Muslims being offended than with what may happen to those same Muslims if, say, a nuclear device is ever set off in a large city that is likely to have a hefty Muslim population. A world where an Imam can denounce terrorism in English on television, then get up in his pulpit and in Arabic praise the islamo-fascists, note their ascension into heaven and the rewards of martyrdom. This topsy-turvy world.

In yesterdays Opinion Journal, the online edition of the Wall Street Journal, James Taranto writes:

Now and then a terrorist actually takes the trouble to explain his motives. London's Daily Telegraph reports on the trial of the man who allegedly (and now confessedly) murdered Dutch filmmaker Theo Van Gogh:

Mohammed Bouyeri, a baby-faced 27-year-old with dual Dutch-Moroccan nationality, broke his vow not to co-operate with the Amsterdam court by admitting shooting and stabbing his victim last November.

"I take complete responsibility for my actions. I acted purely in the name of my religion," he told its three-strong panel of judges.

"I can assure you that one day, should I be set free, I would do the same, exactly the same." . . .

Bouyeri then turned to the victim's mother, Anneke, in the public gallery, and told her he felt nothing for her. Mrs. van Gogh watched as he read out from what appeared to be a statement: "I don't feel your pain. I have to admit that I don't have any sympathy for you. I can't feel for you because you're a non-believer."

This had nothing to do with Israeli "occupation" of "Palestinian lands," America's "unilateral invasion" of Iraq, "torture" of prisoners at Guantanamo or Abu Ghraib, the widening "income gap," or any of the other litany of complaints that the terror apologists trot out. Islamist terrorism arises from religious fanaticism and hatred, plain and simple.

In 2002, in a Harper's Magazine article, George McGovern (yes, that failed presidential contender) writes:
President Bush has said repeatedly that the terrorists hate us because of our freedom. I don't believe that. The world's people have always admired our freedom. What they don't like is the arrogance and indifference to world opinion inherent in so much of our international policy.
Well Senator, you were wrong, the terrorists hate us because they are taught to hate us in their perverted religious system. And no, you dunderheads that think I'm castigating all Muslims, I'm not. I'm castigating those in that religion that spew hate. Just as I would any preacher or rabbi that got up in a pulpit and did the same.

If western civilization is ever ground under the heel of islamo-fascism, it will not be because of their strength of arms on the battlefield, it will be because of terrorism and more importantly, our own complacency by saying nothing to the radical Imams.

Tony Blair, Prime Minister of Great Britain expressed surprise and disappointment on learning that the islamo-fascists who set off the four bombs were British citizens of Pakistani descent. But why should he or anyone be surprised? There have been in London and elsewhere numerous Imam's preaching hate, defiance, jihad in England for some time. Perhaps the English, believing that if they were "tolerant," practiced "multi-culturalism" and opened their arms to the oppressed of the old British Empire that they would be safe from internal attack. All this while the Islamic heretics in their midst used the cover of Islam to preach hate, destruction, JIHAD

The Dutch/Moroccan Mohammed Bouyeri along with the young Brits (Shehzad Tanweer, Mohammad Sidique Khan, Hasib Hussain, and may have done the world a favor by exposing the real reason they are terrorists - their faith. Still others, such as this young man give ample evidence of the paucity of the multiculturalist left. The terrorists, islamo-fascists, jihadists, suicide bomber, what ever you wish to call them do this out of religious fervor, they are most often, middle class or better, educated and captured by a religious wasteland of hate.

There can be no doubt that the lack of outcry against the terrorists from the vast majority of Muslims will work against their own civil liberties, and against ours. During WWII, numerous Japanese-Americans were interned in what can only be called a massive racial animus aimed at anyone of Japanese descent. This interning also happened for "some" German-Americans, but nowhere near to the extent that the West Coast Japanese-Americans were interned. Those of the Muslim faith are generally identifiable by their garb or by their appearance. Should more such attacks occur, I dread the loss of freedoms that will occur for all of us.

Border restrictions that pale beyond what is current, identity cards, loyalty oaths, all the makings of a police state both in this country, and in Europe. And though it will be understandable in terms of a people blindly striking out in "self defense" it will not be a pretty sight.

One answer to this scourge is to stand up firmly, vociferously and loudly and condemn terrorism to the highest degree humanly possible. The whole world, united against a true fascistic ideology that does not care who it strikes. Old, young, retired, children, men, women, combatants, non-combatants, Christian, Jew, Moslem, Buddhist, Animist, atheist, poly-theist, black, white, brown, yellow, tan, red. Indian, Native American, German, French, British, Sudanese, South African, Brazilian, all will become targets because as in the words of Mohammed Bouyeri:

"I take complete responsibility for my actions. I acted purely in the name of my religion,..."

"I can assure you that one day, should I be set free, I would do the same, exactly the same."

"I don't feel your pain. I have to admit that I don't have any sympathy for you. I can't feel for you because you're a non-believer."

As Robert James Bidinotto noted in his blog:

This moral inversion is fueled by toxic philosophy. Thanks to a long gray line of ideological dope-pushers, Western intellectuals, politicians and cultural leaders are addicted to the self-destructive hallucinations of moral relativism, altruistic self-sacrifice, cultural self-loathing and political appeasement of sworn enemies. Self-blame, along with cowardly calls for more "understanding" and "restraint," are their only knee-jerk responses in the face of each new outrage.

UPDATE: Via Instapundit
In an interview with John Howard, PM of Australia:

...these people are opposed to what we believe in and what we stand for, far more than what we do. If you imagine that you can buy immunity from fanatics by curling yourself in a ball, apologising for the world - to the world - for who you are and what you stand for and what you believe in, not only is that morally bankrupt, but it's also ineffective. Because fanatics despise a lot of things and the things they despise most is weakness and timidity. There has been plenty of evidence through history that fanatics attack weakness and retreating people even more savagely than they do defiant people.

Another Update: Mudville Gazette has has a great list of reads up GWot Central as it were.

Update #3, Jeff Jarvis calls a spade a spade:

What they did is a crime. That's all it is, nothing more. A crime.

But when we treat it as something else, when we try to understand it, when we grant the veil of political correctness -- of understanding, even tolerance, invoking fuzzy words like "otherness" -- we risk spreading the crime, making it if not acceptable then at least understandable for others. It is a cousin of glamorizing crime, of turning these scum into ideological, religious Bonnies and Clydes.

Update # 4: Tim Birdnow has a nifty little post up at the Bird Blog.

Posted by GM Roper at July 14, 2005 06:50 AM | TrackBack

Sectarianism for 50 points. ... What is Northern Ireland?

I'm sure that either Ian Paisley, Jr. or Gerry Adams could provide you with plenty of background information on what the next stage of the proceedings might look like.

Posted by Jassalasca Jape at July 16, 2005 07:48 AM

I agree with your post.If people would get off of this idea that it is the poor and oppressed who are the problem.The poor and oppressed are the foot soldiers for those that use them as cannon fodder. They are the real enemy.The leaders are usually well educated,well financed malcontents that have a vision of the future as they have envisioned(such as Lenin,Moa,Ho Chi Mihn,Pol Pot,et al).The followers of UBL want to retake the lands they had captured in the middle ages,from China to Spain. Now they wish to go Global.If I remember History with any kind of accuracy,Islam in the middle ages lived a peaceful co-existance with the west.Until a new more radical sect of Islam began sweeping through the region.Is this history replaying itself? Perhaps History held captive.

Posted by randy at July 17, 2005 01:15 AM

Excellent post. You've got it, it's hate pure and simple. Otherwise, the Palestinians would be thankful for the improvements the Jews brought to the neighborhood. But no, they prefer to live in their medieval system of squalor and suppression rather than work with the Israelis to raise the standard of living for the whole area. A powerful lesson in the self-destructive force of hate.

Posted by BobG at July 17, 2005 10:19 AM

Strategy before emotion.


Posted by Jassalasca Jape at July 17, 2005 04:26 PM

I have only this to add:

"We are not fighting so that you will offer us something. We are fighting to eliminate you."

- Hussein Massawi, former leader of Hezbollah

They want to kill us.

Posted by too many steves at July 17, 2005 04:32 PM

JJ, before you can develop a strategy, you have to know what your enemy is all about, that is reality based and necessary in the development of a rational way to deal with that enemy.

From the article you cited: "However, interrogations of nearly 300 Saudis captured while trying to sneak into Iraq and case studies of more than three dozen others who blew themselves up in suicide attacks show that most were heeding the calls from clerics and activists to drive infidels out of Arab land" What is precisely what I have been saying, these folks are driven by the Imam's.

OK then, how about a strategy of taking out the Imams?

Posted by G M Roper at July 17, 2005 06:00 PM

I don't see how that supports your point; last time I checked the encyclopedia, there was no Arab land inside the borders of the United States of America. Apart from that, "taking out" religious leaders always has predictable effects on their followers. Imagine the impact that the sectarian assassination of a Pat Robertson would have on mainstream opinion in the United States. Not clever.

Posted by Jassalasca Jape at July 17, 2005 06:46 PM

Re Read the post JJ, my point is that the islamo-fascists are being supported by their teachers, the Imams and by those who are, for one reason or another, attempting to find out "why they hate us." It doesn't matter why, the only thing that matters is that they do and that they have the ability, the will and the mindset to do western civilization grievious harm.

It wasn't being in Iraq that caused the bombing of two embassies in Africa, the bombing of the USS Cole, The WTC, the Marine Barracks, the apt building in Saudi Arabia, the murder of Daniel Pearl, it was hatred, pure and simple hatred and that is denied only by the moral relativists.

Posted by G M Roper at July 17, 2005 07:02 PM

I don't know who your "moral relativists" are. Scarcely anyone would disagree that the murders in your list were motivated by hatred, or that there are people on the planet agitating for the destruction of the United States of America. The question is whether the policy line you suggest would help them in their recruiting efforts. The research results that I linked above suggest that al Qaeda would find your strategy to be very helpful indeed. "But they hate us" does not answer that argument.

Posted by Jassalasca Jape at July 17, 2005 08:58 PM

JJ, the take out the imam's was said tongue in cheek, I guess that wasn't clear enough for you, or maybe for anyone else either. I apologize for my inexactness. However, while we cannot determine what the islamo-fascists do, we can determine what we do and we cannot "roll over" for they surely will not stop until their goal of world domination is met. If you doubt that this is their goal, then you do not understand them at all.

Posted by GM Roper at July 18, 2005 05:22 AM

Hi GM!

Great post! You have hit the nail on the head!

Thanks for the plug!

Posted by Tim Birdnow at July 18, 2005 08:06 PM

To Jassalassa Jape,

However, interrogations of nearly 300 Saudis captured while trying to sneak into Iraq and case studies of more than three dozen others who blew themselves up in suicide attacks show that most were heeding the calls from clerics and activists to drive infidels out of Arab land, according to a study by Saudi investigator Nawaf Obaid, a US-trained analyst who was commissioned by the Saudi government and given access to Saudi officials and intelligence.

Moslems believe that THE WHOLE WORLD is their divinely appointed land. That is what you don`t seem to understand. IF we had any reason to believe a study by the Saudis (the source of Wahabiism) it would still be obvious that these terrorists pouring into Iraq would become terrorists over some other issue. The point is, what you are ultimately advocating is appeasement. You are terrified of making an Arab angry, because then he might rise in Jihad. I hate to point out, they are already angry. They have been for a long, long time.

Qur’an 8:7 “Allah wished to confirm the truth by His words: ‘Wipe the infidels out to the last.’”
Qur’an 8:39 “So, fight them till all opposition ends and the only religion is Islam.”
Qur’an 8:59 “The infidels should not think that they can get away from us. Prepare against them whatever arms and weaponry you can muster so that you may terrorize them. They are your enemy and Allah’s enemy.”
Qur’an 8:12 “I shall terrorize the infidels. So wound their bodies and incapacitate them because they oppose Allah and His Apostle.”
Qur’an 8:57 “If you gain mastery over them in battle, inflict such a defeat as would terrorize them, so that they would learn a lesson and be warned.”
Ishaq:326 “If you come upon them, deal so forcibly as to terrify those who would follow, that they may be warned. Make a severe example of them by terrorizing Allah’s enemies.”
Qur’an 8:67 “It is not fitting for any prophet to have prisoners until he has made a great slaughtered in the land.”
Ishaq:588 “When the Apostle descends on your land none of your people will be left when he leaves.”

Are you convinced yet, or need I elaborate?

You speak of tactics, yet want to blame Bush for making Arabs angry. What tactics will you employ against this? Do you REALLY believe that our invasion of Iraq turned a peace-loving people into suicide bombers and decapitators? Do you deny the words of their own Prophet?

Islam is a warrior cult, and they hold weakness in utter contempt. If we falter, if our courage fails, we will be visited by these words of wrath.

Posted by Tim Birdnow at July 18, 2005 08:32 PM

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