July 11, 2005

Canada Applies French Influence -- Insults U.S. Workers

A Canadian auto executive said that a car plant will be constructed in Canada because U.S. workers are stupid. Them's fight'n words where I come from. Let's see if this guy knows what he's talking about or if this is just more phony Canadian snobbery to the U.S.

Here's the story. Toyota announced that they would build a new plant in Woodstock, Ontario. Why there rather than the Southeastern U.S., which has seen an explosion of new car plants? According to Gerry Fedchun, president of the Toronto based Automotive Parts Manufacturers' Association, "The educational level and the skill level of the people down there is so much lower than it is in Ontario." In the report by the CBC, Fedchun added (maybe sneered) that workers in Alabama and Mississippi are often illiterate. Well, Monsieur Fedchun may also think that people in Alabama and Mississippi don't wear shoes, either.

Let's look at some figures. Canadian taxpayers are giving $125 million in location incentives. Canadian taxpayers are providing $5 per hour in health care benefits, which translates to $13 million with that size employment, which is over $100 million in an eight year period. Then, the Canadian taxpayers are on the hook for $275 million in related and supporting industries for Toyota. That totals $ 1/2 Billion that they gave away to attract the plant! Now, who really are the stupid ones?

So, you still think that it was their brains rather than their money that got the plant? According to this recent survey, "...42 per cent of Canadians have low literacy (scoring either Level 1, the lowest level where a person is, for example, unable to read a medicine label; or Level 2, where only the simplest of messages are comprehended and there are limitations on learning new skills.)" and at one time Canadian managers concluded, "The estimated annual cost of illiteracy to Canadian business is $1.6 billion for industrial accidents alone. This does not include the cost of illiteracy from lost productivity in other areas."

These smart Canadians are going to learn that there are no poetry and cappuccino breaks at a car plant. You use your muscles and have to sweat. The fact is that auto plants locate where labor is cheap, incentives high, and lifestyles for management and their families are good. If a new plant recruits factory workers from the bottom of the labor pool, they may get someone who can physically do the job even though they didn't graduate from college. They would find this whether outside of Tuscaloosa, Alabama or Woodstock, Ontario. I don't think that southern auto manufacturers have any second thoughts about their location decisions. Mercedes and BMW are just as smart as those guys from Toyota.

Southern workers, in fact all U.S. workers, are the best. People in the U.S. work harder and longer than our friends in the cold north and other parts of the world. And, surprise, they can read, too! The states have compulsory education, and I don't think that even the public schools turn out illiterates.

So Canada, just don't tell us that you got a car plant because southern workers are stupid compared to you. We're not that dumb.

But, for you, Toyota--have fun doubling your paperwork in both English and French, dealing with the biggest government bureaucracy that you'll ever see, and having to melt the ice off of car parts before you can install them.

And, Canadians, if you want the U.S. military to continue to provide your defense and fight your battles that you can't or won't do, please don't be offended if we use some stupid, shoeless Southern hicks to do the job.
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UPDATE of July 15, 2005: When the disparaging comments about our auto workers were published, I wrote the Canadian auto association, which is led by the executive making the remarks, and "The Birmingham News," which is the major newspaper in the area of most of the new car plants in the South. Today, "The Birmingham News" wrote me and provided this reponse from Mr. Fedchun of the association. You may follow the Continuation Link to the letter and apology from Mr. Fedchun. It is being placed here for those might come to this entry from a search or link, and they should have both sides to be fair and to see the resolution to this point. Additional information may also be added if it becomes available.

The Birmingham News (c)
Friday, July 15, 2005
Letters to the Editor


On June 30, Toyota awarded a new assembly plant to Woodstock, Ontario, Canada. The Automotive Parts Manufacturers' Association issued a formal press release complimenting Toyota. After the announcement, I was interviewed by media for additional comments.

I was asked to elaborate on details related to the skilled workers in Ontario and in the Southeastern United States. The comments were my own personal comments and are not shared by Toyota or any other vehicle manufacturer. International surveys have verified the average skill level of Ontario residents is one of Ontario's competitive advantages in North America. My comments taken in their total context were meant to highlight that quality and were not meant to disparage workers elsewhere.

I never used the word "illiterate," nor would I. I have been in this industry a long time. The use of diagrams and illustrations is common. I was horrified that my remarks were reported as they were.

I have led four trade missions to the Southeastern United States. Several Canadian suppliers have set up plants there as a direct result of these trade missions. If I believed what the article implied, would I have done so? I think not.

I must profoundly apologize for the agony the interpretation of my comments has caused. I hold a high regard for the residents of the Southeastern United States. I do not think in the way the newspapers have made it seem.

Gerry Fedchun
President, Automotive Parts Manufacturers' Association
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


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I personally don't think that it was necessary to apologize, as society tends to overdo demands for those. However, I do think it is important to stop misinformation and biases and to set the record straight. I think that this reply is in the right direction to accomplish those goals.

Later, a Canadian born auto executive with Mercedes added his view, a totally opposite one, on this matter in a letter to the editor. Here is part of that.
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The Birmingham News
Sunday, July 17, 2005
Letters to the Editor


For the past 12 years, Alabama has been my home. I am a native of Ontario, Canada, but in 1993, Mercedes-Benz asked me to join its new team in Alabama that would operate its first and only manufacturing facility in North America. ...In my 35 years in this business, I have worked for U.S., Japanese and European car makers. I have run plants in both the United States and Canada and have been responsible for several plant start-ups. I know what it takes to run a successful business, and I know quality workers when I see them.

That's why I was very disturbed and embarrassed when I read a Birmingham News story recently, quoting a Canadian auto industry leader on the abilities of Alabama workers. ...It appears that Fedchun is the one not quite educated. He, obviously, doesn't know what automakers require - and receive - from its workers in Alabama.

...our Tuscaloosa plant recently won DaimlerChrysler's Top Quality Award for 2004 for best performance by a Mercedes plant anywhere in the world, and that was a direct result of our team members' abilities.

It is not my objective to defend Alabama workers; the results speak for themselves. ...our plant recently completed a $600-million expansion, which doubled our work force to 4,000 and will bring production to more than 160,000 vehicles a year, which in the automotive industry is a validation of an organization's success.

As a Canadian, I am proud to lead this organization in Alabama. As a 35-year veteran of the auto industry, there is no other group of workers I would want on my team.

Bill Taylor
President and CEO of Mercedes-Benz U.S. International


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Unless there is something new of substance to add, this is the last update on this matter. I think that we can lay to rest these biases of people who don't know better and who have now had their education.

Posted by GM Roper at July 11, 2005 06:00 PM | TrackBack
Comments

Much as I want to bash Canada(just on general principle), I do take exception to one minor little point in your justified annoyance with the Canadian sense of 'betterness'.

What exactly is the problem with the 'health-care' benefit being used to atttract industry? That system is a choice Canadians make as a matter of public policy and it costs us all a fair amount as you probably are aware. Why should it not be a selling point to potential employers ?

Answer: No reason whatsoever.

That the US continues to maintain a system that is clearly not likely to survive the next wave of global competition is surely not our fault. MOST countries now have some form of public health system which is amortised over the whole population base. This has the additional benefit of freeing employers from much of the health related costs which would otherwise accrue from the hiring of staff. Perhaps instead of complaining, it might be preferrable to look objectively at how the US can implement at least the rudiments of such a system.

And doing so would really be a benefit to a free economy as it would have the effect of 'subsidising' privately employed personnel thru the use of general tax revenues, thus freeing the corporation(in a perfect world ) to use the saved capital in more productive areas as it fended off foreign competitors.

Just a thought. As I related; bash Canada all you want but the health-care issue is much more complex than you have made it out to be here..

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doug, I agree that Canada or any country should use whatever incentives they desire to attract industry. However, no matter how you slice it, the taxpayers are going to pay for it--and, they pay for it in another way with inadequate availability of health care services, which are rationed. The health care argument is a different issue and might take another paragraph or two, but I come down on the side of keeping it private and out of the hands of the typically inefficient government.

Woody

Posted by dougf at July 11, 2005 07:57 PM

OUCH!!! Well said my friend

Posted by GM at July 11, 2005 08:43 PM

" but I come down on the side of keeping it private and out of the hands of the typically inefficient government. "

In the days of independat doctors, I would agree with that, Woody. Those days are long gone. Having our health dependant on the largess of insurance companies is clearly not in our best interests. Doug is right.

Posted by jim hitchcock at July 11, 2005 10:29 PM

And I might add, on a purely anecotal basis, that the Veterans Administration treated my dad's bladder cancer for ten years extremely efficiently. It was when he was forced to transfer his care to an HMO that he received atrocious, neglectful care by doctors. He died nine months after a kidney removal, due to a post-operative infection. He ran a fever the WHOLE TIME, the number one indicator of an infection. It was an abcess at the surgery site that killed him.

That wouldn't of happened at the V.A.
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Jim, I'm sorry about your dad.

Believe it or not, I used to work in the hematology lab in a V.A. Hospital, my mom has been a volunteer for another one for about 20 years, a client of mine has been a doctor for the V.A., and I often take one of my closest friends to yet a different one for his cancer treatments. Just like any hospital chain, the level of quality can vary by location and from one mangement team to another.

As a rule, our local V.A. does not have the top doctors or equipment that is at the local hospital where I have my care, simply because it is on a tighter budget. However, I would rate it better than some of the smaller outlying hospitals. I respect the work of the V.A., but it still has the operational and financial problems of a government operation. From my personal experience, I'll stick with the private hospitals.

Woody

Posted by jim hitchcock at July 11, 2005 10:39 PM

Was Abreu using a corked bat!? 24 HRs in Round 1 ! At least the Canadian came in last.

"Bobby Abreu smashed two records in winning the 2005 Home Run Derby, hitting 24 in one round and 41 all told. Miguel Tejada held the previous marks of 15 and 27. David Ortiz also broke Tejada's one-round record, hitting 17 in the first round."

Posted by Woody at July 11, 2005 11:21 PM

I think a corked bat would've broken to bits, rather than slivered the way that one did. Looked to me like the guy just had his stroke wired, and did a good job of waiting for his pitch...every one he hit was in the same location.

First time I've ever watched the HR contest...usually I'm disgruntled over the 3 day layoff. Not this year (big surprise). But it really was quite a performance.

Posted by jim hitchcock at July 12, 2005 12:29 PM

The Canadian system is so good that their doctors are relocating to the U.S. and practicing here, it goes to show that the Hippocratic oath is more important than money or country.

Posted by Jack at July 12, 2005 11:48 PM

I suggest that the barefoot hillbillies learn to look on the door post of every vehicle they intend to buy. If it says assembled in Canade, demand a vehicle that was assembled in the U.S. or hell even one that was assembled in Japan.
Leave those assembled by the snobs in Canada sitting on the lot. Think it won't work, ask France about the boycott of French goods led by Bill O'Reilly. He cost them millions in lost sales. We can do no less to the Canadians. I've already used this tactic when looking for a new Ford. One was assembled in Canada, engine made in Canada, with a Transmission from France. I ask the salesman if it had rust away in 60 days fenders made in China, and left it setting there.

Posted by scrapiron at July 14, 2005 12:22 AM

Southerners are the least educated people in the United States. You also have the poorest states when considering the amount of educational funding for public schools and universities. You must remember what made the U.S. (in the first half of the 20th century) a destination for immigrants to receive an education were 2 men from Europe named Einstein and Fermi who fled europe due to German aggression. Education in the U.S. is a joke when it comes to the midwest and southern states. Maybe, Americans can play basketball and football, but they sure can not read. As a latino, I was educated in Universidad de Puerto Rico, University of Toronto (Canada) and at Hunter College in New York City. Education in California and Northeastern States are alot better than the rest of the United States. Most countries in the world have a better educational system than the U.S. Do your research and open your eyes!!!!

Posted by guzman at July 28, 2005 12:15 AM

Thanks for making us all smarter, guzman. It's amazing how much you know about schools in the South never having attended any; but, what's equally amazing is that you correlate dollars spent to quality of schools and don't realize, too, that a dollar goes a lot further in Auburn and Tuscaloosa than New York. Anyway, Alabama is number one in something--the alphabet! Take that New York and Wisconsin!

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P.S. I notice that you came to the site through Google by typing in the search words "southern u.s. is stupid." Why did you do that and what were you hoping to find? You might want to check your own prejudices and misconceptions, because believing wrong information makes one look stupid--even if he is from Canada and the North.

Woody

Posted by Woody at July 28, 2005 12:20 PM

Your column presents some good topical discussion yet you fail to dig deeper and provide any reasoned argument or research to support either sides position. You follow this up with typical uninformed rhetoric about Canadian's government, our health care and with coments like " melt the ice off of car parts".

In the future you may wish to broaden the argument and provide a better perspective to all who trip into this web site like I did. The comments of 1 auto executive from Canada does not speak of the feelings or beliefs of all Canadians and to attempt to address it as an us vs. them argument is dumb.

Happy in Canada

Posted by DWM at February 21, 2006 08:14 PM





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