If the U.S. media had investigated and published this information before the election, it would not have changed my vote. I figured as much, anyway.
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In 2000 the majority of the large US Islamic organisations including ISNA, to thier everlasting shame, endorsed and supported Bush. What do you make of that? That Bush was pro Hamas? That he was a supporter of Islamic terrorism. Let me remind you that muslims are citizens of the US as well and that like nay group of dieverse people, can be motivated by a whole web of interest. My own opinon is that such a high muslim support of Obama had little to do with his position on Israel/Palestine, as they differ little from McCains, but more to do with the way in which Obama's middle name was used agianst him as if the false impression of him being a muslim was a smear. This immediately and obviously offended many in ther muslim communittyand they went for Obama. Their is also the issue of eroding civil liberties and targetting of Arab and south asain under the last repub adminstration. Finally much of the overtly narrow religious right wing of the Repub, those who divide Americans into "real" and not so real camp, the group Palin was picked to shore up, end up aleinating a good deal of moderates, jews as well as muslims for obvious reasons. And like much of trhe country muslims were fed up with Bush. That all of this goes over your head doesn't surprise me too much.
Posted by: Ahmed at Wednesday, November 12 2008 12:42 PM (1aaEU)
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Ahmed, your endorsement examples seem a little fishy, but the biggest endorsement, that from bin Laden, went to John Kerry.
I don't remember McCain once using or supporting the use of Obama's middle name to smear him. Maybe you can enlighten us.
However, I do remember Obama getting ready to make a speech and his handlers, while he was right there, forced two Muslim girls to move so that they wouldn't be in the picture behind him. Why no offense to that?
Posted by: Woody at Wednesday, November 12 2008 01:15 PM (Eb/8J)
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No but Obama's link to Islam was used by many supporters of McCain, which served, obviously, to alienate many in the muslim communitty. Evidence on this fact abounds, in fact see your friends Cao's obsessive and deranged blog for extensive Obama/Islam coverage. You're rigth when you say that Obama played into the McCarthyite and Isamophobic agenda being used against him by moving those two young women and making no appearacens at mosques and muslim communitty centers even as he was giving other relgious communities far different treatment. I has crticised him for this and written to the campaign. It's widely know that not only ISNA but most large Islamic organisations endorsed Bush in 2000, so im not sure about the "fishy" claim.
Posted by: Ahmed at Wednesday, November 12 2008 01:28 PM (1aaEU)
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PS Im talking now about the 2000 race not 2004
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If I remember the reason ISNA and other organsation gave for their 2000 endorsement of the Bush ticket, a decision of grotesque stupidity, was that the Gore/Lieberman ticket was running to the right of Bush/Cheney on the issue of Israel, which was, incidentally true. Nonetheless, given the Bush/Cheney record particulalry on civil liberties, which negatively affected Arabs and Muslims in the US, it was a decision they lived down. I voted Nader that time and looking back would do the same today
Posted by: Ahmed at Wednesday, November 12 2008 04:03 PM (shX1B)
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Woody, it doesn't make what the Obama campaign did alright, as I've already critiqued them, but had the young woman in the hijab been allowed to stand in the backround of Obama's speech Im almost postive that people like you would have posted repulsive, idiotic posts outing the woman appearance as more "proof" that Obama is linked to a global Islamist agenda.
Posted by: Ahmed at Wednesday, November 12 2008 08:11 PM (gSJWy)
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Yeah, so we figured, instead, that Obama was a lying hypocrite.
Posted by: Woody at Thursday, November 13 2008 06:29 AM (Eb/8J)
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At least you admit that you would have posted hate inducing nonsense about hijabs, hamas, islamofacism and Obama had the young woman stayed, which she should have. You guys are deserved to lose, badly.
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