1 It's a wonder he didn't call for a nation wide strike. Isn't that what socialist dictators do in order to bring out the "vote"?

2 his own voter base already makes this their policy every day. 

The 60's are thataway... don't the let the door bump your rump on the way out!

3

I think that this is what people mean when they refer to the "hate American right". The utter contempt that Woody's holds for a large part of the population who make up this country is truly remarkable. He has evolved into a bitter, senile character whose politics are simply a vesself for his own insecurity and bigotry. According to this post, the portion of the population who supports Obama (about half of voters) all don't work or are free loving hippies. Is this either possible or rational. Over at Coopers, Woody suggests that blacks have no real commitment to voting. Thye guy's a creep and shame on GM Roper for dwellling in this muck.

4

Ahmed,

How dare you say nasty things about Woody !!! He loves America, apple pie, the christian bible, Ronald Regan and HATES all them lazy blacks, muslim aka terrorists, Obama's non-working marxist/ socialists,  baby killing, American hating, terrorist loving, god hating, kool-aid drinking, Paling derangement syndrome, and just plain crazy liberals.

Woody do you still claim George W. Bush is a great president?

 

 

 

 

 

 

5

Let's clear up something, Ahmed.  You misstated what I wrote, so here was my entire response to you at Coopers:

Ahmed, why are you so offended by what most people know to be true–black voter turnout in bad weather turns out to be very low? Is that wrong to say? Why? Even Democratic leadership knows that. Obama isn’t taking any chances, so he’s out there trying to get them to vote early and often and to even skip work to vote for him.

And, Ahmed, Khalidi did work for Yasser Arafat–a terrorist. That’s serious. Khalidi appears as unrepentant for serving the radical PLO as is Bill Ayers for his terrorism. If Khalidi has never expressed remorse for serving this terror movement, then nothing he says today in moderation can be taken at face value.

Did you know that Khalidi and Ayers were best friends, too. There’s a few too many terrorist links with Obama’s friend Khalidi for me to give Khalidi a pass as some benign mideast expert.

If Marc followed your calls for bans, he could lead off with you who defend terrorists and terrorism. People who state the truth, no matter how unpopular to the left, don’t threaten the nation, but terrorists do.

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Frank, I don't even know who you are, and you sure don't know me, so I'll speak for myself rather than let anyone trust what you have to say about me.

And, I see that you adopted Ahmed's left-wing talking point about the "hate America right," which is a joke.  I don't hate people, but I have a right to strongly disagree with them--especially over issues affecting my country and my family.

6 Ahmed, you and woody are free to disagree, but you WILL NOT use words like "prick" on my blog.  Don't do it again!  This is NOT Coopers blog.  'Nuff Said?

7

I see an amazing discourse has presented itself here.  I don’t mean “amazing” in the sense that it provides any intellectual stimulation, but rather from the unusual standpoint of one man attempting to stifle free expression through ad hominem assault.  So then, if I understand this correctly, a man who exercises his right to articulate an opinion is a “sad and shallow prick” because his opinion happens to differ from the other fellow.

 

This seems very similar to the kinds of strategies employed by socialist elitists who use the power of the state and its resources to violate a citizen’s right to privacy, and castigate him simply because he dared to ask a question of a presidential candidate, or perhaps the tactic of punishing a television station for similar reasons. 

 

I may have misunderstood this entire discussion, but on the off chance that I can recognize intellectual dishonesty ten out of ten times, let me just say that Woody should be ashamed of himself for daring to have an opinion, and then actually expressing it.  He apparently forgot that first amendment rights only pertain to Marxists, who are largely in agreement with one another, and identified enemies of the State even if unindicted co-conspirators.

 

Overall, the exchange was quite instructive, considering that the post may have set a record for the blogosphere’s shortest essay ever.

8 Yeah, Ahmed, try Thick as a Brick, instead

9

Ahmed you talk of Woody's contempt for a large portion of the American Population. Guess what? It is Woody's priviledge as a US citizen to do so. The sooner you come to grips with this the better you will understand the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. 

 

10

Woody now writes...

"Obama offers to help McCain voters, as his own voter base already makes this their policy every day."

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Why did Woody and GmRoper change this post? They should hev the 'huevos" to stand by their previous comment.

The "bait and switch" after the comments about their original post were made shows what cowards they are, too afraid or ashamed of their first comment.

 

 

 

 

11 Frank, don't be as dim as I think you really are.  The posts were removed for cursing and Ahmed's refusal to stop.  That's it my little sheeple.  Now, go find another obamabot to play with please.

12

G.M., Frank is not referencing the comments, but my post.  He's right that I did change the wording slightly, but not for the reason that he says. 

When I originally did the post, I was in a hurry and had to rush off.  When I got back and re-read it, I thought that it would be clearer and more readable with a simple change in connecting words and by making it one sentence instead of two.  Absolutely no meaning or intent was changed at all.  Frank caught it in between the revision.  That was it.

Now, he tries to accuse us of something sinister.  He's wrong.  Frank's complaint shows the paranoia, desperation, false accusations, and dishonesty of the left to elect Obama using "any means necessary." 

Attacks will only get worse if Obama is elected.

13 I'll tell you what else is strange.  The post that you see without comments displayed leaves off the last part of my one sentence, but the entire sentence shows when you go to the view which displays all comments.  That's a technical issue, but there surely has to be something sinister going on.

14

Sinster plot, Woody ooh please, I doubt this blog is read by more than a few folks for me to be "trying to elect Obama using "any means necessary". 

If anybody is paranoid, it's the authors of this blog, who can dish it out on Marc Coppers's blog but cry like a spoiled child when taken challenged.

You boys better look under your bed tonight for those Palin Derangement Syndrome suffering liberals, ooooh oooooh ooooh very scary.

 

 

15

Frank, you didn't challenge me.  You brought up a non-issue, for which I offered a perfectly reasonable and accurate explanation.  Occasionally, I will tweak a post if, after I walk away, I come up with a thought to make something more understandable or complete.  Your "gotcha" is without merit, as is your claim that G.M. and I cry over at Marc's.  Is that all you have to say?   

16 What is it with this Ahmed guy?  Can't he keep what happens at Cooper's blog - at Cooper's blog?  He's like a kid I knew in school who, when you were through arguing with him and walked off, would continue to follow you down the hall and into the next room harping at you.  The people in the room have no idea what's going on.  All they see is two people bickering.   If you're just looking for attention, do something worth paying attention to.

I don't give a flip what kinds of arguments you guys get into elsewhere.  If I did, I would go there to read them.  It does no good to air this kind of petty sniping outside the context of where it began.  No one understands, no one cares. And it's a clear display of disrespect for anyone else who happens to stop in for a read.

I haven't visited this blog in some time and this kind of bickering, which I simply don't have time for, nor the inclination to make time for, is part of the reason why I went elsewhere for conversation.  As much as I adore GM and have respect for Woody I have no desire to muddle my way through snapping and back-biting comments over something that has nothing to do with the subject.

17 Can't he keep what happens at Cooper's blog - at Cooper's blog?

I had the same thought myself.  Besides, I'm supposed to be the liberal gadfly around here.  Ahmed, you're encroaching on my territory! 

18

Well, from now on, what happens at Cooper's, stays at Cooper's.  G.M. and I have disassociated ourselves from that blog.

Now, we have to rename this blog from "Has Everyone Gone Nuts" to "No, Just the Liberals."

 

19 What a weid comment by that Wolfe guy. Of course it's his right, embedded in the first amendment, to say and hold whatever views he wants. The point I was making is that his hostility and scorn he holds for a large section of the US public along with his outright dismissal of some of the nations best values clash in an outright way with the sort of hyper patiot image Woody fosters. It's funny that the biggest flag wavers are somtimes the moist narrow and hostile to so many hwo live and love this country. Woody's patriotism is a gimmick he uses to fight agianst those who believe that we should strive for reform, and in the great American tradtion seek to expand our democracy to be more just, inclusive and fair. Woody is a fake patriot.

20 I thought liberals were against questioning people's patriotism.

21 I'm not a liberal nor do I think that we should take to who wave the flag as a way of blugeoning others at face value. Sorry

22 "Woody's patriotism is a gimmick he uses to fight agianst those who believe that we should strive for reform, and in the great American tradtion seek to expand our democracy to be more just, inclusive and fair."

And you speak in parables and generics.

"Just, inclusive and fair".

Why that could mean anything.  It could be interpreted in numerous ways.  And the means by which to achieve these, according to one's interpretations, are even more varied.  I mean really, how could one disagree with that?  "Just, inclusive and fair".

And when you're not engaging in parables and generics, you're proclaiming to know what's in another's heart.

So, whatever.  Listen, if you're expecting to be offended, you will be.  Let me end this with, "No offense intended."

23

"G.M. and I have disassociated ourselves from that blog."

At the exact time that the ship is sinking and all your hyperbole, ranting and incoherence is increasingly being exposed by Cooper and others. I guess that these conservatives of the Roper and Woody stock, who are constantly attacking liberals and minorities for wallowing in victimhood, are themselves a timid bunch. Roper and Woody were around for the Bush years (how did that turn out, btw?) yet leave when people people are too harsh. Why am I not suprised

 

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