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Too funny our hard earned tax money once went to support Joe the Plummer when he was on welfare!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPzW2XELAfw

2 Ahmed, I have a number of thoughts, but, first, explain to me why you think it's funny that Joe the Plumber had temporary needs and accepted help offered by the government to everyone in his situation.  Should he have turned it down or is it just funny that he was hurting?

3 So, Ahmed, assuming you endorese Colmes attack on a former welfare recipient, we can also assume that you are endorsing the vile and nasty let alone elitist comments below the video.  Shame on you sir!

4 The irony is that Joe the Plummer, who we're only talking about because of an idiotic instant celebrity culture we're caught in, whines about higher taxes waxes hyperbole about socialistic government programs but he himself when down and out relied on the very government support he purports to attack. I personally believe that we should look after one another, that we are our brothers keepers and that government has a role in fostering an environment which creates the conditions for dignity and fairness for all. I believe that Bill Clintons welfare reform was part and parcel of a larger attack on the social security of all Americans. The problem is that Joe the Plummer is so damn hypocritical about this. It's handouts for others, but okay for him. Hey, Ropes I've got some choice word for you in the other thread, do check them out.

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Ahmed:  ...(Joe) himself when down and out relied on the very government support he purports to attack. ...The problem is that Joe the Plummer is so damn hypocritical about this. It's handouts for others, but okay for him.

Ahmed, you have completely misunderstood Joe's past and position.  But, first, it's extremely pathetic that you would attack a private citizen, who some extremist have even demanded his death.  For what?  Please explain the left's preoccupation and hatred for this man.  Is that an example of your compassion and desire for dignity and fairness?  You laugh at his past difficulties. 

Joe benefited for a temporary period from a government program for which he had been paying for others but never demanded for himself--but decided to accept since it was offered.  I don't like a lot of government programs and their taxes, but, once in place, I'll use them just as everyone else does.  I might as well get something for my money that everyone else is taking...as did Joe.  The welfare that Joe obtained is supposed to be a bridge between jobs and that is how he used it--not as a permanent handout as many believe. 

Joe, unlike lazy liberals, has a dream.  He wants to own a business, be successful, and earn money for his family without the government taking it and giving it away to others who didn't lift a finger for it and have no defined needs.  

Joe saw through Obama's promises, and Obama confirmed his suspicions with the "share the wealth" statement.  Joe is wary of "sharing the wealth."

Obama's plan is wealth redistribution, pure and simple, where he takes from some taxpayers to give to people who don't have special needs; i.e., a vote buying scheme from people with no principles or shame.  Obama will write checks to people who have jobs but don't pay taxes. 

So, tell me what Joe did wrong to incur your laughter at his past indignities, which should be private.  Tell me what was wrong with his question, because, if a private citizen can't ask a question of Obama without nationwide attacks from the left, then Obama's revolution is not one of democracy.  That's what I suspect.

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For what it's worth, I don't hate Joe and wish him no harm. On the other hand, I don't take him seriously and find his new found fame to be a representation of a kind of  noxious celebrity culture best representing by reality tv. The fact that the McCain/Palin elevated him to the point where he campaigned with them, is, IMHO, simply testimony to the hallowness of the repub ticket.

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Ahmed:  wish (Joe) no harm

Ahmed, you rejoice in the investigations into Joe, his failings, and his hurt.

 

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It's quite hillarious to see Woody, a man who shows no shame posting the most crass links (like the one of Obama shining that idiot Palind shoe), now pretend to be a sentamentalist, caring aboutthe falings and hurt of others. In the wake of a well deserved defeat you guys are becoming too funny

9 Joe the Plumber is a private citizen.  Obama chose to run for President and accept public scrutiny.  It's pretty sad that you can't see the difference.

10 I've heard rumoyrs that Joe the Plummer is planning to write a book. Regardless, he has already appeared in a number of TV chat sessions and was wisked around political rallies as a prop by McCain and Palin. Hardly the activities of a private citizen. If anything your beef is with the McCain ticket who elevated this man into somne kind of rugged every day person, in a desperate attempt to go after Obama. I've already critiqued the create a celebrity culture, of which creates the condiotions whereby Joe the Plummer becomes needlessly famous.

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Ahmed, Joe the Plumber was private until the press sent hordes of investigators to look into him and Obama backers used the State computers to dig up whatever dirt they could find.  Once "exposed," why shouldn't he have helped McCain at that point?

ou forget that Joe did nothing and that it was Obama who made the error and that it was the left that hated and attacked Joe for no good reason--just like you do.

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I honestly do not want to hear any liberals gloating about their victory at the polls.  Only 39% of the American people voted; of those, 21% voted for Bama.  Hardly a popular mandate, and no reason to proclaim himself emperor.  Where I live, only 6% of voters unseated a GOP incumbent.  When you consider how much money was spent on the national election, that’s not a lot of bang for the buck, is it?

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This just shows that you and Mustang are nothing but sore losers. So, as the nation begins hopefully to emerge out of the shadow of Bush, let me gloat, at least once. We won! Yes, we can!

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