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Randy's and mine are solid. Yours on the other hand are biased wingerville paid for shills by naysaying industry lobbyists. How pathetic.

The colateral field I have is in Environmental Biology and the 18 unit speculation is actually 85. it's on my transcript. I'm a GS-5 professional series fishery biologist just finished a stint with the BLM. Look it up. Right wing Idaho hired me. I guess you have no influence there huh Roper?

What you've composed here is called an ad hominem circumstantial. Well it failed, because of context and truth. You had little of either. Just the grain of truth necessary for your diatribe. Keep running coward. That's your style.

Those reviews, hardly literary legends. Amateurs like you two.

Only a coward deletes non-profane, qualified comments because he disagrees with their content.

You are just like the rest of the pathetic, whiny little communist losers of the left, you feel it's okay to bray your trollish, anemically reasoned comments(hell, every point you make to try to justify the ignorance behind your alleged beliefs is anemic) at other blogs, but the minute anyone disagrees with you at your own blog, you delete their comments.

You, sir, are an inconsequential organism of a calibre well beneath plankton.

Wow. He should be more careful than to post threats online....especially when a simple google search shows where his dumbass lives in Sunland, Ca.

You know what? I am only about half an hour away from Sunland. In fact, I have friends that live there in Sunland, and a nice drive over to visit my friends would be a great way to spend a day.

Mayeb I should stop by Mark's and bring him a nice Hallmark Greeting card to celebrate the upcoming season of peace and forgiveness eh?

After all, isn't part of the reason for the season to remember the lessons that Jesus taught? And Jesus did teach us to turn the other cheek.

Mark? Buddy? Wanna get together for some coffee? Oh wait....HOT drinks might contribute to global warming.

How about some ice tea?

Dammit. Not only does making ice cause global warming, but if we selfishly use that ice we take away it's ability to counter some of that global warming.

Mark? Wanna meet for a room temperature glass of some environmentallly friendly liquid refreshment?

My suggestion would to be to toss it a scrap occasionally for entertainment value, but to otherwise ignore it and leave it to wallow in its irrelevance.

But then, of course, this isn't the sort of... creature... I would allow in my house, either. I'd keep it chained up outside, so it wouldn't soil the carpet.

-- R'cat
CatHouse Chat

In elementary school when someone yelled "FIGHT!", nearly everyone dropped what they were doing and ran to watch. I must admit to having retained a certain unwholesome interest in confrontations - although my interest has migrated from fisticuffs to verbal pugilism (how sophisticated, eh?).

I am especially pleased to see that my guy is winning - BIG.

Randy's and mine are solid. Yours on the other hand are biased wingerville paid for shills by naysaying industry lobbyists. How pathetic."

Lets parse this bon mot for it's meaning. First York says qualifications are immaterial to his sources and that is (apparantly) from journalism 101. Then, he contradicts himself and says his are solid while mine are biased and paid for in wingerville.

Is York saying his credentials are solid or his sources are solid? If it's his sources, he is only producing sources material of THEORY stating that some of the information are facts and that is true, there is more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere for example(it has gone up from 270 ppm to 370 ppm a tiny, tiny almost infitesimal amount but that is the subject of another post) on the other hand, it is the EFFECT that we are talking about and that, on his part, is speculative theory and while it may be proven eventually (though all inidcations are that it won't) it is still theory. If he is saying his credentials are solid.. well, he did graduate from CSUN....

Ah, so that explains why you couldnt distinguish between theory and fact. You "education" is in journalism. I guess my previous point was indeed correct that "Mark York was never taught scientific principles, or was asleep the day the subject was taught"

As for rejecting mine and Randy's evidence I'd say you have to. Realclimate; NASA; Union of Conmcerned scientists and a host of others say you are wrong. Flat-out wrong. So what do you do? Discredit the source. Well that doesn't fly on merit. They aren't biased, they're real. Here's the real kicker: your sources are. They're paid for shills and we've documented that FACT. Ignore if you must.

Deriding a my resume is the last refuge of a scoundrel just like your faux patriotism, and is indeed an ad hominem circumstantial. It says I have a vanity press book so I couldn't know anything, yet I work for the Bush administration in science-- environmental science. How could this be? I'm not going to continually refute the same fallacies over and over with people claiming I'm biased, or visitors calling me an idiot for being valid.

Saying you feel like ringing someone's neck is different than claiming to come to their house for an unfriendly visit. Remember that because the LAPD will be very interested should that happen.

Do yourself a favor: call off the hounds.

Ididn't say anything about your sources. I amteasing you about the whole GW thing. As for your credentials? Yes, you have credentials. Whether they are valid in the GW arena is another matter entirely. CSUN is such a prestigiuous school.

BTW, I have been reading excerpts from your "books", and I must say, my GF is an editor and here is her opinion: You need an editor, a better story, some writing skills and a subject matter that people will care enough to read about".

I notice that you keep dissent off of your site. That's fine. I tried to be civil over there, but you would have none of it. For a man that averages about 40 hits a day one would think that any visitors you would have stop by would be treated with some amount of hospitality.

Let me tell you. You are a sad little man, with a big bulbous head and a receding hairline, but that is a good thing, as it will give you a more aerodynamic outline and make trudging through the hills in search of endangered fish easier, because twigs wont get stuck in the hair on your big bulbous head.

Face it puddin head. Your "books" suck, your "blog" sucks, your "career" sucks and YOU suck. You are living a sad little life, wailing against the big bad BusHalliburton machine, never realizing that the policies you wish for would destroy your country and your way of life.

Now, I never said I was coming over for an unfriendly visit. In fact, I said I was gonna bring you a hallmark card, and maybe go out for some coffee.....but nooooooo. Your paranoid delusions make everything out to be a threat.

Call the LAPD Mark....now that they have solved all crime in LA I am sure they will be happy to rush right over and handle yoru paranoid delusions....maybe they will get you a room and some meds.

Last note. We aren't the hounds puddin head. If anything, we are the attack dawgs.

Well that settles it. Your girl friend, as everyone surely knows, at least in some circles, is the final literary authority. Whatever. Amateurs amateurs amateurs. My sources as any journalist and scientist will verify are impeccable, as is my hairline, so this sort of thing is just a sad ad hominen. Pardon me if I don't interpret your Hallmark as friendly.

And from what I can tell all of your blogs suck, you're a movie grunt, not that there's anything wrong with that, I'm a SAG member myself, and are an unusually combative ideologue. Nothing unique about that. Stay home.

Like GM says of me, you came and insulted me with foul language right off. That's a bad start, so say goodnight, this party's over.

Up above however, he doesn't call me Roper or GM or GM Roper, he calls me a "And one final thing you lying sack of fertilizer." In a prior comment, he calls me "Rope-a-dope..." and that doesn't even include his "friggin snake" comment.

In the real world, as opposed to the one inhabited by York, we call that hypocracy. York, can you say HY-PO-CRITE?

Amortized over the course of ten years it's not that much. It's $1,828 per per person based on a population of 280,000,000 over the course of ten years totaling $15 per person.

Please please tell me they are not registered Democrats.

"Paul-York and the Bolsheviks"

As for movie grunt? Yeah...hhmm...I was listed as a grip once....other than that it has been horse wrangler, stunt coordinator and associate producer....but only because I secured the costuming, extra's, location, props, set painters, SFX guys and played go between with the crew and location owners. I only was given grip because I helped load the truck when we wrapped.

Your credentials as a scientist SUCK MELONHEAD!!!! CSUN SUCKS....I have known too many lib dolts that have gone there, and still do, as I live about 3 miles from that sucky assed campus.

Your "credentials" as a "journalist", not to mention a "writer" are even worse, and your book, (the excerpt I read, I wouldn't buy it to wipe my a-- with) was the most boring thing I have read since I found directions on using laquer and was bored enough to read them. At least the directions were written by a PROFESSIONAL!!!

I didn't start out insulting you, melon head, but now that I have started, you gutter-slug, it is kinda' fun. I know that you will read this, and won't allow comments at your blog, so I wont leave you unkind words there, Quark, but I will leave them here, knowing that I am pissing you off.

How do you see through those beady little eyes anyway? Is there any chance that you will go back to alaska to chain yourself to a bull dozer when they start to rip up anwr? Boy, I bet you just cry in your granola over that don't ya nature boy?

All those caribou out there wailing in the cold north wind while big effin machines tear up the earth. I hear caribou is good eating. Maybe I should call my congressman and have 'em toss in a rider so the oil workers can get special dispensation to go hunting on their off time eh?

OKokokok.......I'm done....for the moment anyway puddin head. Well, almost done.

Have you considered renting out that enormous cranium for a billboard? You could probably fit two or maybe three ads on your forehead alone.

OK....now, I'm done.

But if you do rent out that giant scully your totin around, I want ten percent for giving you the idea. For twenty percent I'll even secure the ads.

Oh...alomst forgot. You get a pitiful 40 hits a day....you should be thanking GM and Woody for bringing you traffic. I have never seen a site with so few hits actually put up google ads.......you may as well beg at that point.

I suggest you note that in the future -- though no future mentions may be best.

I believe in CO2 increases; a gas tax should be instituted to stabilize the prices, and the price increases, and encourage different behavior. The first 10 cents/gal should go for Katrina/ Wilma/ Fed disaster relief/ recovery.

Randy Paul wrote in response to "...I once had a short science show on educational television.: "One wonders why someone would 'never reveal' such a relevant fact or make the claim without supplying anything in the way of proof."

As I went through this thread, I realized that Civil Truth was staying out of the fray and, thereby, showing good sense. As I went futher into the Global Warming entry two down, I noted Civil Truth's comments about bringing some civility (appropriately) back to the discussions. He wrote, "The Golden Rule is still a good law to follow." While I'm speaking for myself, I agree with that and with him, and I suspect that G.M. agrees, also.

We didn't start the attacks. We were attacked ourselves, in fact blindsided. and defended ourselves rather than let untruths go unanwered. Calling me a liar doesn't prove global warming claims by the left. In light of that and other false claims, I don't consider our responses to this point inappropriate.

I genuinely appreciate everyone who came to the defense of G.M. and myself and who exposed the other side and their weak arguments. Your support is heart warming. Also, I realize that some of the arguing was in good fun, even if some of it was not. In any event, now that the points have been made, it may be time to move along to more constructive commentaries.

However, this doesn't preclude us from discussing the merits for or against global warming--and that ought to continue as part of our learning process.

I don't expect Randy Paul or Mark York to agree to be civil, maybe they will; but, we can rise above them and not let them drag us further into their mire--and, possibly, just possibly, we can pull them up, too.

It's been interesting and enlightening, and maybe a little humorous, but I'm going to try to follow the advice that Civil Truth offered. It is not only right, but will certainly make for more educational and interesting reading.

Thanks again to everyone for supporting us and for being part of our cyber-family.

Hey, is this some kind of coded spam?

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I enjoy argument for argument's sake, in some ways similar to how some people enjoy playing cards. I don't take it personally, even when I feel that I've lost the argument. My life doesn't depend on winning and losing, and the topic isn't usually materially affected by the outcome of the argument. In sum, arguing is fun and intellectually stimulating.

Which is to say that I feel some pity toward those whose sense of self worth and life purpose (apparently) is determined by their opinions and positons on the issues of the day.

How else would you interpret the illogical, vitriolic, and profane rantings of these folk?

However, like the card game analogy that you offered, some people take it too seriously and throw their cards, accuse the other side of cheating, and turn over the card table. This isn't important enough to do that and it discourages the learning process. In school, the kids who disrupted the class got sent to the principal's office. You would have hoped that everyone would have grown above that.

I quit visiting some sites because they were contentious. We never want anyone to stop visiting here for that reason. All sides are welcome and encouraged to comment. All we ask is civility in the exchanges.

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August 19, 2005

A Women's Group - Looking Twice and It Looks Nice

Last week, a women's organization offered a $5,000 prize in a college essay contest that is limited only to female college students and asks "what you think it means to be an independent woman in the year 2005." My first impression was, "Oh, boy. Another man-hating feminist group brainwashing young women." Well, mark it on your calendars, because today I am admitting that I am wrong. I did a double-take and found that it is a feminist organization, but in the good sense, and one in which parents could be proud of their daughters' participation. The group is the Independent Women's Forum (IWF).

In viewing their list of issues, I was surprised to see that they accept that men and women develop differently because of biology rather than society. What a concept! Then, they have a section on the rewards of dating and romance rather than just "hanging out together." There is another section on rights for the women of Iraq. They take positions on a broad spectrum of matters--from judicial appointments to balancing work and family.

This organization has strong common-sense women who can help properly teach young women and further their needs in life and business--without being radical and hating men. How refreshing! You may want to read some of their studies and refer them to others. In fact, suggest to any college women whom you know to enter their essay contest about being an independent woman. There's nothing wrong with that and the way they approach it.

I'm glad that I was wrong today. It's nice to see examples of women being strong without being filled with hate and bitterness. Now if we can just train them to cut the grass...okay, okay--I'm just kidding. Now, go read about them.

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Where you find'em I don't know but please keep finding them.

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Of course, I think the idea that "... they accept that men and women develop differently because of biology rather than society" is a lil unbalanced. It's pretty well established that both nature AND nurture play significant roles in a child's development. Probably the emphasis on the "nature" side is a counterbalance effect, eh?

(And yeh, I'm well aware of many of the physiological differences�endocrinologocal, neurological, etc., down to even some fundamental cellular differences�ON AVERAGE, between the male and female of the human species. Viva la difference! :-)

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I particularly liked this section of one of the articles on the site:
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May 24, 2005

The Party Is Just Beginning!

I have asked Woody to continue to post and be a part of GM's Corner. He has accepted... Let the games begin!

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2 Woody not only gets two weeks unpaid time off, but also gets the use of my car when I don't use it for a least 3 months. Further, I'm offering him a retirement plan based on 100% of the funds he earns from my site when he is on vacation. In other words, every nickle he earns from me on his time off will be doubled and deposited in a special offshore account. He knows the one I mean, after all, he helped me set it up.

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When you consider our similar experiences, this match was only natural.

First, here's what you wrote about yourself in "About GM Roper":

"You may be wondering why I named this GM's Corner, simple really: When I first started commenting on other's blogs, I used only my first two initials and last name, other's responded to me using GM and one told me to go to my corner after a fierce battle verbal battle. Hence, GM's Corner."

Now, here's a similar experience that I had. When I was "discussing" something with reg over at Marc Cooper's, Marc interrupted the discussion by writing this:

Hey, Reg and Woody...This is about me and Nikki! Back to ur corners!
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So, you can see that I've been ordered back to the corner, too; and, since your corner is as good as any, I'll squeeze in.

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May 21, 2005

Warning to Criminals - Don't count on Henry Fonda

If you are an accused and your trial is set in the State Court for Fayette County, Georgia during the week of June 13 - 17, 2005 and if you are guilty, you better hope that I'm not on the jury. On the other hand, if you are innocent, you better hope that I am. That's right; I have received a jury summons for that time, and I believe in justice. (Quiz: Define "justice." Answer later.)

Perhaps, there's no danger to those on trial either way. The attorneys never pick me. The last time I was interviewed one attorney asked me if I had any preconceptions of the case, so I pointed to the judge and yelled, "He did it." That'll get you off the jury really fast!

The clerk of court sent me a list of reasons for getting out of serving. Maybe they have already made up their minds on me. However, I feel that it my duty to serve my community and uphold the sixth amendment in the Bill of Rights.

I watched an old movie the other day about juries. It is titled "12 Angry Men" and was made in 1957. One of the stars is Henry Fonda, who is the do-gooder. The story is about a jury of twelve white men (when is the last time there was a jury like that?) who heard a case about a young man's crime. Eleven of the jurors "know" he's guilty from the evidence and are ready to go home to fire up the grills and cook some steaks. But, do-gooder Henry Fonda holds out and, one-by-one, convinces everyone to switch to an innocent vote. He talks about reasons like the kid has had some bad breaks and comes up with suppositions and conclusions totally absent from the evidence presented. I saw some reviews about how good it was, but those reviewers were suckered in by the "feel good" aspect of it rather than the legal aspects. A "Henry Fonda" better not be in my group. I'm planning on cooking out that week.

Now, I remember a good court scene in which Jack Nicholson tells off Tom Cruise in "A Few Good Men" and shouts "You can't handle the truth." I have to say that to liberals a lot.

Does anyone have any tips or stories for me in case the attorneys slip up and select me for their jury? In the meantime, I'll be getting up to speed by watching "Court TV" and watching re-runs of "Matlock" and "Jag." (I had a relative star in "Jag" this season. Impressed?) If Ben Matlock is the defense attorney, the real guilty person will break down and confess before we even get to deliberations.

Just in case, I know I have along way to go, because I thought that O.J. and Robert Blake were guilty when it turned out that they were innocent. With your advice and the examples from California juries, I'm going in prepared.

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1 I am not able to advise you, Woody because to do so would probably be a violation of more federal statues than can be found in the Library of Congress. Never-the-less, I was excused during voire dire once when I said, in response to the question, "Can you render and fair and impartial decision in cases such as this?" -- and I said, "Absolutely, every idiot deserves a fair and impartial hearing."
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Tell me that really didn't happen! I would have loved to have been in the room.

That might have been a good time to break into the Jack Nicholson monologue: "I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide, then questions the manner in which I provide it! I'd rather you just said thank you and went on your way."

You might have received applause rather than have been been struck.

Woody

Posted by: Mustang at Saturday, May 21 2005 08:28 AM (nP7cz)

2 I'd like to be on this jury:

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/asiapcf/05/21/afghanistan.abuse.reut/index.html

Posted by: steve at Saturday, May 21 2005 08:37 AM (WT3Gr)

3 Actually, if I may, a better citation than the dumbed down CNN version:

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/22/international/asia/22abuse.html?pagewanted=2&ei=5094&en=e9e3ad1e6c5e1514&hp&ex=1116734400&partner=homepage
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steve, why wait for a trial? Join the media lynch mob! Everyone on the left knows that the U.S. and this administration are always wrong (ask Newsweek!), so who needs a jury?

Woody

Posted by: steve at Saturday, May 21 2005 08:38 AM (WT3Gr)

4 Wow! you seem to have missed the whole thrust of the movie. You are like the hard head that was the last holdout against the facts that were overlooked in the case as presented by the prosecution. Admittedly the defense council must have been republican because he must have agreed that the defendent was guilty and just went to sleep during the trial. Fonda just pointed out the inconsistancies of the trial, And the other members couldn't refute them. Sound familiar?
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Jim, I admit that I was in-and-out during the movie. However, I do remember "facts" being introduced and discussed that were not even brought out in the trial. Anyway, I'll be sure to try to see the whole thing next time.

Woody

Posted by: James S Melbert at Saturday, May 21 2005 10:18 AM (jtmmU)

5 C'mon, Woody, that's your response to the story? Doesn't it bother you a bit the way these asshole E-4's and E-5's have have impugned the honor and integrity of ALL of our armed forces, as well as our country, with their fucking outrageous acts? Or the fact that we apparently have a President who is such a weenie to stand up before the country to say in no uncertain terms that this is unacceptable, and will NOT be tolerated!

If so, I'd suggest you've been listening to way too much AM radio. The story is NOT the NY Times.

Apologize for the language. This really has me angry.
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Does the left like ANYTHING that our military does, or is it only critical? See the next post above. I'll have to get back with you on the article. It's birthday time and, as reg says in reference to us, "life goes on."

Woody

Posted by: jim hitchcock at Saturday, May 21 2005 10:20 AM (Sf1Tt)

6 We would probably all like to agree with Jim on this, but the fact is that the President of the United States is IN THE CHAIN OF COMMAND. He is precluded from making statements on any matter that may be tried pursuant to the UCMJ. If he does comment, it could result in charges being dismissed.

Posted by: Mustang at Saturday, May 21 2005 10:34 AM (nP7cz)

7 Happy Birthday, Woody...but you're missing the point. This is NOT what our military does. This is the action of some very sadistic pieces of excrement. Where in the hell were their officers? And what the hell was lacking in their training to make them think they could do this kind of shit?

If your crack about the left not liking anything the military does was directed at me, you're way off base. Hope you get underwear with hearts on it for a present.
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Jim in no way was my remark directed at you. It was a general statement, which I know that many on the left don't like--which is the only time that they respect the individual.

I didn't connect the dots, but in another post I made reference to this being my son's birthday. But, when it is mine, I hope that I get better underwear than Saddam Hussein models.

Woody

Posted by: jim hitchcock at Saturday, May 21 2005 10:48 AM (Sf1Tt)

8 Woody,
1, the capitalist organ the NYT [whom you cited as praising the troops above] is an odd 'left' institution...

2, i'll go by my judgement, i was on target on the fake nature of the WMD claims, my bets are on the 'left-wing' military sources quoted and named in the NYT article and the documents.

3, go back and look at the records, Hamid Karzai is not a leftist.

4, such stories are not new and what they describe is torture, not 'abuse'. if the 'liberal' media were describing such horrific acts of murder and torture occurring against an American soldier, they'd be rightly referring to them as 'torture', no?

Posted by: steve at Saturday, May 21 2005 01:14 PM (WT3Gr)

9 Newsweek was right actually, the only thing they were wrong about was to offer the fake retraction when no retraction was necessary and no need was in order to follow the advice of the Pentagon or the Bush administration given their own record of systematically not caring about the truth when revelations of torture at Guantanamo have been raised time and again, not to mention the invasion and current occupation of Iraq.
I read their capitulation as pathetic, then again they're a major capitalist organ of information dissemination, no need to be too surprised.

Posted by: steve at Saturday, May 21 2005 01:18 PM (WT3Gr)

10 Juries... *sigh*

"In the country of the blind, the one-eyed man will be stoned to death, no matter how long it takes or how many other folks are unintentionally killed in the process."

Two juries I've been on were both civil cases. In both instances, a pronounced majority wanted to give something to the plaintiffs cos they felt sorry for them. In the first case, the only other sensible person on the jury and I could not persuade the rest and a 10-2 verdict (no unanimity required in this case) sunk justice. In the second case, "we" started out as three and another leaner and were able to review the evidence and testimony and let the rest draw a more sensible conclusion...
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What gets me are juries that give outrageous awards saying that no one is going to have to pay it because it's covered by insurance.

Woody

Posted by: David at Saturday, May 21 2005 04:08 PM (ACL5/)

11 I think I'm tardy to the party Woody, but Happy Birthday to you!

As for jury duty, try this one: "I believe we all are responsible for our actions."

I doubt there is a defense lawyer in the land that would let you through upon hearing that.
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What if I said, "Who's really on trial here is society for failing the accused. If we send the accused to prison, shouldn't all of us go?" Now, of course, you know that I don't believe that, but I suspect that there are a lot of people who would eat that up.

Woody

Posted by: too many steves at Sunday, May 22 2005 12:46 AM (0QaNZ)

12 Oh man, I think applause might even break out, especially if you were to add, "And who are WE to Judge?".
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What if I said that I was going to hold a filibuster until we got a new judge?

W

Posted by: too many steves at Sunday, May 22 2005 07:01 AM (0QaNZ)

13 ugh, that's a myth woody, awards haven't been going up, nor have the rates of lawsuits in this country

http://reclaimdemocracy.org/articles_2004/study_debunks_lawsuit_explosion.html
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steve, I think I'm going to scream. I put thoughtful answers here in response and approve the comments, but forget to save my response. I'm going nuts.

In a nutshell and not to re-type everything, the link refers to class-action suits. There have been many HUGE settlements in individual civil suits, and I have heard the jurors interviewed and their responses something like "no one has to pay for it since insurance covers the claim." That's the same logic that no one has to pay for anything that the government does.

Woody

Posted by: steve at Sunday, May 22 2005 11:09 AM (WT3Gr)

14 Here though you're using anecdotes, but I think that article is pretty correct in its assessment of actual trends statistically.
Don't go crazy, Seek wisdom in the grass, the anthills, the slides, and Maisy Mouse. That works for my son.
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W

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April 03, 2005

Play Ball!

Play Ball!

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1 It is rare for a game to live up to the pre-game hype. Never has that been more true than last night's drubbing of the Sox by the Yankees. My view may be skewed by geography, but all the talk in Boston over the past two weeks (5 months?) has been about how good our team is and how beating the Yankees in their place with Randy Johnson pitching was just a certainty. Meanwhile the Yankees seem to have just gone about the serious business of preparing themselves for the first game.

Many Red Sox fans are a bunch of yahoos. And some of the players have gone along for the ride. Hopefully this is a wakeup call cuz' I won't be able to take it if they go 0-162!

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Sadly, I agree. The Sox had a chip on their shoulders but it is good to have it knocked off so resoundingly so early in the season.

Posted by: too many steves at Sunday, April 03 2005 11:31 PM (0QaNZ)

2 Yay Yankees! Yay baseball!
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Oh, thou dastardly Ogre... hehe!!!!
The Yanks DESERVED that win, The Sox played like they had been up carousing all night and were thinking about beer, not baseball.

But, the season is young... REAL young.

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