February 24, 2008

Are Liberals and Democrats (but I repeat myself) Painting Themselves Into A Corner With Obama?

Maybe I shouldn't equate Liberalism with Democrats, there are after all a few stalwart Democrats that are conservative and who cringe when they hear Obama and Hillary Speak.  However, they can't speak out or go against the party line because they too want to be re-elected. 

Back to the subject at hand:  Are liberals and democrats painting themselves into a corner with Obama?  Victor Davis Hanson in a terrific article wonders "What Brought Us Here?" meaning the rise of Obama.  In part Hanson notes: 

"But sometime by December, the Obama candidacy had transmogrified, as his wife and Oprah, in style and substance, vouched for his African-American fides—and suddenly 90% of the black vote was unexpectedly won in many primaries. If his worry in the cauldron of Chicago politics was that he was too “white”, suddenly those fears were assuaged in the current election.

Second, at about the same time the hope and change message began to morph as well into a prophetic, near messianic sermon along the self-righteous lines of something like, “You, America, have a final chance to show that you are still good, after all, by voting for a brilliant African-American charismatic leader. If you don’t, then you are captive to race, and we were right all along about your America.”

The Racial Paradox

Racial solidarity or perhaps racial atonement is the subtext of Michelle Obama’s controversial speech, and the lame meae culpae that followed. So now we are in this Orwellian paradox of seeing Obama’s base turn out in record numbers on the basis apparently of race, but on the other hand the implied warning that if anyone else were likewise to consider that fact, then he would be racialist."

I don't suppose that I can oppose an Obama candidacy because he is the most Liberal Senator in the United States Senate?  I don't suppose that I can oppose an Obama candidacy because he has already promised something along the lines of 815 trillion dollars in additional spending?  I don't suppose that I can oppose an Obama candidacy because he claims that middle class people are "victims" and not responsible for the choices that they make?  I don't suppose that I can oppose an Obama candidacy because he wants to nationalize health care (but at the same time castigates the Veterans Administration - the epitome of government health care) which everyone thinks will be free, but for which they will ALL pay on April 15th every year?  I don't suppose that I can oppose an Obama candidacy because he wants to pull out of a war BEFORE we have won it and will thus encourage additional depredations by the islamofascists?

If I do any of the above, why, I must be a racist! In fact, if any of you vote AGAINST Obama or FOR anyone else you too are a racist.   

Bull shit! 

I may not vote for McCain, but you can damn sure bet that I'd vote against Obama if he ends up the Democrat nominee and if that makes me a racist, well then; So. Be. It.

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1

Interesting site you have.  I won't vote for Osama because his imitation of Elmer Gantry is really awful.  I've seen Nigerian email offers that have more credibility.  As for his wife, well when they made them they matched them.

 

On the flip side I won't be voting for that RINO McCain.  I get tired of all the war hero BS.  Exactly what was it he did that was heroic compared to the 2,000 other POWs?

 

And if I hear once again what a brillant guy Osama is I'll throw up.  My dog shows more indilligence and makes his intentions known more clearly and quickly than Osama without a telepromter.

Posted by: Thomas Jackkson at Sunday, February 24 2008 07:49 PM (XXrhY)

2 Thanks Thomas, hope you'll be back often!

Posted by: GM Roper at Sunday, February 24 2008 08:34 PM (S60yG)

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Hmmm.

The Democrats are "painting themselves into a corner'' because, wait for it, their nominee is TOO LIBERAL.

And, wait for it again, GM Roper, a rightwing blogger with GOP ads all over his site, WON"T BE VOTING FOR OBAMA. And that's supposed to somehow be persuasive?

I attended a wedding over the weekend and ended up seated at dinner with three other men, two of which were "lifelong Republicans." One, a retired Marine, said he would be voting for Obama because he thought the country needed a fresh approach and believed Obama could provide a break with the past divisions between liberals and conservatives.

I certainly think the former Marine's comments don't reflect a very careful study of events, but there you have it. And I have a feeling he's far from alone among "lifelong Republicans."

The other lifelong GOP guy said he would also vote for Obama, should he win the nomination. His reason was that he didn't want the Supreme Court to be packed exclusively with conservatives. Even though he's a Republican, he recognized the importance of spreading power out among political factions.

Again, I don't share that view of the judiciary's role, but I did take his comments as a further sign that a lot of Republicans are digging pretty deep for reasons to explain why they'll vote for Obama.

Reminds me of nothing so much as the many Democrats who felt they had to make up reasons to vote for Reagan. Most back then, as I recall, usually muttered something about Reagan cheerleading the country into better times somehow...

Posted by: McLovin at Monday, February 25 2008 12:39 AM (UvT8A)

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What a spectacular disappointment. Republicans fear they won't be able to get away with race-baiting the Democratic candidate.

It's funny and telling that they're worried this will throw them off their game.

Posted by: Hal E. Burton at Monday, February 25 2008 03:12 AM (UvT8A)

5

With the race now including Nader, who doesn't think that Obama is even liberal enough for him, many left-wingers will decide to vote for the Green candidate.  Would that make them racist?

It's interesting that we'll have candidates who are white, green, and black--or, for the last one, should I say socialist red? 

Posted by: Woody at Monday, February 25 2008 08:07 AM (Eb/8J)

6 Some commenters think that because I'm conservative, I'm automatically a republican.  They would be wrong!

Posted by: GM Roper at Monday, February 25 2008 08:14 AM (1fjXG)

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"Maybe I shouldn't equate Liberalism with Democrats, there are after all a few stalwart Democrats that are conservative and who cringe when they hear Obama and Hillary Speak.  However, they can't speak out or go against the party line because they too want to be re-elected. "---GMR

 

Well not really related to the main point of your post, but since you mentioned it.

The fundamental problem with institutional 'democracy' is summed up precisely by your above observation. You even cite it a legitimate' defense' for behavior that otherwise would be censurable. If someone 'cringes' when they see Obama or Hillary, then they shouldn't be part of the process or the Party that supports them. I think English has a word for those who sell themselves for money an position. Some are just more honest about their roles.

There are far too few representatives who really want to to do something whatever the future costs, and far too many who 'want to be re-elected'. ALL they want is to be re-elected. If they can't even speak out in defense of what they supposedly believe, for fear of their political future, what difference between them and any other time serving bureaucrat or corporate functionary ?

But they are not supposed to be like these other drones. They are supposed to be 'leaders'.

For all the talk about corruption and special interests distorting the process, the process is ruined by precisely the types of people who gravitate towards it and are rewarded by the 'voters' as a result.

Obama promises he will clean up Washington. He's therefore automatically either a liar or a fool or most likely both. Reason enough to never vote for him. 'Liberal', or not.

Yes We Can !!

Reason enough to recoil from this guy. He frankly creeps me out the more I see of him.

 

ps --- For those commentators who think that Obama is a 'breath of fresh air'.

 

He's NOT.

And he won't get elected in November. Sorry to burst your bubbles so early in the cycle. Those polls that now favor him --- The important thing to note in them is that he can't break the 48% support barrier in a direct projected matchup. 48%. That's just about what EVERY Democrat can show in these early days in EVERY election. And this is his high-water point. The point before all his 'liberal' postions are piled atop one another to present a clear picture to the electorate. The point before more and more people wonder whether putting a boy into a man's job at a time of WAR is really such a great idea. The point before his 'religion' and his 'religious' backers are marched out for all to see. Anyone who gets Farahkan's fevered endorsement really does have some splainin' to do.  The point before he IS seen as the candidate of one particular group.

He's already lost. And it's not even March.

Posted by: dougf at Monday, February 25 2008 10:45 AM (16GPT)

8 As you can see by comments three and four, someone who doesn't support the Messiah-Obama (No, I won't!  Or, as Science Fiction Author Eric Frank Russell once wrote in The Great Explosion:  "Freedom, I Won't") is already a racist.  You guys are so  predictable.

Posted by: GM Roper at Monday, February 25 2008 12:12 PM (S60yG)

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Thanks dougf, for that breath of "air."

The talking point is supposed to be Obama's "too popular" thus a sign that surely the American people are stupid.

But I see you're thinking outside the box with: Obama's already lost the election, i.e. Obama's ``too unpopular.''

Keep it coming! It's so fun watching Republicans lose.

They keep trying to retrofit the same talking points they used in 2000 and 2004, but they just aren't working this time around and won't.

 

Posted by: McLovin at Monday, February 25 2008 03:40 PM (eN5/Z)

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